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SmogHog
04-09-2011, 12:29 AM
OCZ Vertex 3 Review by Anandtech

Approximately 90% of what OCZ ships in the Vertex 2 and 3 is using Intel or Micron NAND. Those two tend to be the most interchangeable as they physically come from the same plant. Intel/Micron have also been on the forefront of driving new process technologies so it makes sense to ship as much of that stuff as you can given the promise of lower costs.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/storage/OCZ/Vertex3/120/smDSC_2685.jpg

Let's first look at the expected performance differences between the 120GB Vertex 3 and the 240GB drive previewed earlier this year

SPECS_________ 120GB__________ 240GB ______________480GB
Max Read _____Up to 550mb/s ____Up to 520mb/s _____Up to 530mb/s
Max Write _____Up to 500mb/s ____Up to 520mb/s _____Up to 450mb/s
4KB Random Read _20K IOPS______ 40K IOPS_________ 50K IOPS
4KB Random Write_ 60K IOPS______ 60K IOPS_________ 40K IOPS
MSRP_____________ $250_________ $500_____________ $1800

OCZ Vertex 3 LineupSpecs (6Gbps)120GB240GB480GBMax ReadUp to 550MB/sUp to 550MB/sUp to 530MB/sMax WriteUp to 500MB/sUp to 520MB/sUp to 450MB/s4KB Random Read20K IOPS40K IOPS50K IOPS4KB Random Write60K IOPS60K IOPS40K IOPSMSRP$249.99$499.99$1799.99
There's a slight drop in peak sequential performance and a big drop in random read speed. Remember our discussion of ratings from earlier? The Vertex 3 was of course rated before my recent conversations with OCZ, so we may not be getting the full picture here.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/storage/OCZ/Vertex3/120/smDSC_2686.jpg

Inside the 120GB Vertex 3 are 16 Intel 25nm 64Gbit (8GB) NAND devices. Each device has a single 25nm 64Gbit die inside it, with the capacity of a single die reserved for RAISE in addition to the typical ~7% spare area.

The 240GB pre-production drive previewed by comparison had twice as many 25nm die per package (2 x 64Gbit per NAND device vs. 1 x 64Gbit). If you read our SF-2000 launch article one of the major advantages of the SF-2000 controller has over its predecessor is the ability to activate twice as many NAND die at the same time. What does all of this mean for performance? We're about to find out.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4256/the-ocz-vertex-3-review-120gb/5

the1laf
05-10-2011, 02:53 PM
My fastest Boot time ever! Thank you OCZ!
http://i54.tinypic.com/rhtilf.jpg

AlteredReality
05-10-2011, 05:57 PM
if i happen to buy this, and my laptop is set to raid 0 with two 500gb hdd, how do i go about installing this SDD and getting my memory on it, if i cant can i still set it to raid or is that not needed?

the1laf
05-10-2011, 07:06 PM
You'd have to look into installing it in the OD slot as an independent drive if you want to keep raid on the two HDD's as you need two identical drives to do a raid setup...

This thing is smoking hot with speed, I'm not worried about raid even if my G73 could; unless I could afford two 250Gb V3's....

SmogHog
05-10-2011, 08:31 PM
if i happen to buy this, and my laptop is set to raid 0 with two 500gb hdd, how do i go about installing this SDD and getting my memory on it, if i cant can i still set it to raid or is that not needed?

SSDs work best in the 0 position.

If you put the SSD in the primary drive 0 position on the SATA bus and have the Raid array drives at position 1 and 2(Optical Drive Bay w/caddy)it should work fine.

For your ODD you will need to get an external USB device.

When you boot up it will boot the SSD unless you manually choose the Raid array to boot first in bios or pressing F? key.

Anomander
05-10-2011, 11:57 PM
Here is hoping in a year the price goes down. ;)

the1laf
05-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Here is hoping in a year the price goes down. ;)

Ditto on that, I'd like a 250Gb :D :p

AlteredReality
05-11-2011, 08:31 PM
if I.buy this can I actually just take out the primary hdd, and put this in and wipe out all the memory in the secondary hdd and do a clean windows 7 install? As far as putting the raid array to w.e position, that all sounds like a different language, I don't really understand it, its probably a lot more easier then I think it is

mosesthegreat
05-11-2011, 09:18 PM
I just got an update from Brett that the Vertex 3 drives face compatibility issues with the Sager 8170-S1 when in AHCI mode.

Ill probably have to either choose to stick with the Vertex 3 drive in IDE or change it to a Intel 510. Anyone got advice on this? Im not too familiar with the difference between AHCI and IDE.

SmogHog
05-11-2011, 09:58 PM
I just got an update from Brett that the Vertex 3 drives face compatibility issues with the Sager 8170-S1 when in AHCI mode.

Ill probably have to either choose to stick with the Vertex 3 drive in IDE or change it to a Intel 510. Anyone got advice on this? Im not too familiar with the difference between AHCI and IDE.

Let's hope both OCZ will have new firmware and Sager a new bios to fix the issues.

It would be a shame if Sager owners were unable to have an option to install the fastest non enterprise SSDs available today.

Intel SSDs are good but not as fast and cost effective as the OCZ.

An email to OCZ and Sager may get a solution quicker if enough people put the pressure on.

Sagers have issues with DDR3-1600 sodimms also.

mosesthegreat
05-11-2011, 11:23 PM
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/572735-sager-8170-ocz-vertex-3-ssd-ahci-issue.html

Some of these people claim to have found a solution, I forwarded it to Brett. He says he'll get back to me on whether their techs can implement it.

lets hope so!!

the1laf
05-12-2011, 07:17 PM
I just got an update from Brett that the Vertex 3 drives face compatibility issues with the Sager 8170-S1 when in AHCI mode.

Ill probably have to either choose to stick with the Vertex 3 drive in IDE or change it to a Intel 510. Anyone got advice on this? Im not too familiar with the difference between AHCI and IDE.

ASUS WIN! lol jk :D :laugh:

SmogHog
05-12-2011, 08:47 PM
During a clean install of Windows 7 there a screen that comes up right before the Windows 7 files begin loading.

At that sceen there's options for the drive and a load driver option.

If you have the Intel RST zip file unpacked in a folder on a USB flash drive you can click on "Load Driver" and point the installation to it's location and install the RST ACHI software.

You can remove the USB stick during the first reboot in the install process..

Newest Official Intel RST driver/software:

F6 Install x64 ziip
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/2002...0.5.0.1026.zip (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20023/eng/f6flpy-x64_10.5.0.1026.zip)

F6 Install x86 zip
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/2002...0.5.0.1026.zip (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/2002...0.5.0.1026.zip)

BTW don't forget to install the Intel chipset software after the Windows 7 insallation completes.
****Your new clean Windows 7 installation should be done with a version of Windows 7 that has SP1 included.

SmogHog
06-27-2011, 07:19 PM
hardocp.com has posted their review of the Vertex 3 SSD 120GB and 240GB

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/06/27/ocz_technology_vertex_3_ssd_120gb_240gb_review/1