Sager 5791

[xpcdude]

Ok, I`m just about ready to order the 5790 with the 7950 gtx card, and I`m wondering about a couple of things:
1) if I were to order it , say tomorrow, when would I have to pay for it
2) when exactly could I expect to see it? :)
Thanks, can`t wait to get this rig asap.

[Justin@XoticPC]

You would pay for it at the time of order. (Usually charged within 24 hours).

Which screen are you interested in? The reason I ask is the WSXGA first shipment is not going to be in for 1-2 weeks. The WUXGA screen is in now and could ship in 3-5 business days :D

[xpcdude]

I`m sticking to the 1680x1050 WXGA+ , it doesn`t justify for me the extra 95 $ just to get a higher resolution,but maybe you could explain clearer why there is a 195 $ difference from the standard "Matte" resolution, or maybe supply me with some links or videos that might convince me to go for the extra bucks...even so, I will pay a lot of money for the notebook , so I`m trying not to overextend unless it pays off.

So basically , in the worst case scenario, you would ship in 1-2 weeks , add 5 days for shipping and that means that in 3 weeks it would be here? or did I get it wrong? :P

[Justin@XoticPC]

That is approximately correct on the delivery date. The matte doesnt product any glare on the display but it is not as vibrant as the Glare. Have you seen the different types in stores?

[xpcdude]

I have...but it would be my first laptop with such a screen ... I am not sure, but I might order the 1920x1050 after all :P First of all, could you tell me aproximately how fast could I receive it if I were to order it with the WUXGA ? And also...how many more of them do you guys still have? ( cause if you have only a few, I should either hurry, or get ready to wait :D )

And one more question, which OS would you reccomend and why ? ( XP home+sp2 , XP pro sp2 , vista home 32/64 bit, or vista ultimate 32/64bit ?)
It is obvious that for the time being, this is a gaming laptop :)

[Justin@XoticPC]

The WUXGA would go into building within 24 hours :) We still have quite a few WUXGA models available. It takes us on average 48-96 hours for shipment on these models at the present time.

I would go for the Ultimate, if it were me because Vista will be more mainstream in the near future and the Ultimate is the best version out. I would go 64-Bit if you want to use 4GB. 32-Bit OS's only show right around 3GB of Ram.

[xpcdude]

Did the 5790 just get cheaper ? :D

[Justin@XoticPC]

Yes it did! It now comes stock with a cheaper video card (8700GT) :)

[xpcdude]

Oh no, I just saw that the WSXGA+ is not available any more and the WUXSGA is 250 dollars more expensive! That is terrible! Not to mention that on the customisation page the 1x2GB module is not available either... WHY ? I need only 1 module in case I would want to upgrade later , and the fact that you only have 2 types of screens, with a difference of 250 made me think if I really want the 5790 any more :(

[Justin@XoticPC]

The WSXGA Glare is in shortage at this time. Due to performance issues we will not supply the 1x2GB option any longer as you will lose up to 5% performance without running Dual Channel. (2 Ram Modules)

The prices just changed. Sorry :)

[hitman453]

Now that it is almost August 2nd Justin, is there any exact shipping date for the WSXGA+ matte screens for the 5790? I am really hoping to recieve mine soon because I have been dying here since I ordered in June and the original ETA was early July though I know that it is not your fault. :wink: I just would have thought that things like this would have been thought through a little more by the Clevo. I also would like to know if you still have any delay on 2GB sticks since I ordered 4GB total and would not like to see another delay. Thanks.

[Justin@XoticPC]

Sager is starting shipping of the WSXGA Matte next week :) There is no delay on the 2GB modules at this time :)

Sorry for the wait :( We greatly appreciate your patience.

[xpcdude]

So will you guys have 2 GB modules available again soon ? I would like the 2 gb module and if possible, the WXSGA+ . Is there a date when we will see those again ? I don`t want the matte, and the WUXGA is waaaaay to expensive compared to the matte screen.

[hitman453]

Would the WSXGA+ laptops come with the fingerprint reader now that it is in stock?

[Justin@XoticPC]

Yes the5790 will now be with the FP reader :) The 2GB modules are in stock and have been in for some time now :) The WSXGA Glare screen is not going to be offered any more :(

[xpcdude]

I was referring to the 1x2GB memory module, since right now I`m fine with just 2 gigs of memory, but I might upgrade later only if needed, and having 2x1 GB would make things complicated...
So what you are saying is that there will only be 2 types of screen, with 245$ separating them ? that is so weird...

Anyways, the 5790 is my choice, and I will order it sometime next week, after I see some more reviews about it :P
Thanks Justin for your time and answers.

One more thing, I saw that powernotebooks offers a remote control when purchasing Vista Ultimate or Premium... offer me the same, and we got a deal :D

[Justin@XoticPC]

We are no longer offering the 1x2GB in the 5790 as it will hinder the systems performance. Yes there are only going to be these two screen available. We have the same remote in our configuration that is provided free with Vista HP or Ultimate purchase :)

Deal? :D

[xpcdude]

Doesn't the remote control come only with the TV tuner? or does it come free just with purchasing Vista premium or ultimate? that include vista home premium also, right?
I will contact you later on , with or without the remote control :P

[Justin@XoticPC]

The MCE remote promotion is a part of the purchase with Vista Home Premium or Ultimate. This will work with your TV Tuner.


Let me know what i can do to help :D

[xpcdude]

I'm curios, did anybody receive the 5790 yet? I`d love to see a review of it...

[Justin@XoticPC]

There are a few reviews of it from our customers on notebookreview.com

Please check it out there :D

[xpcdude]

I did, but I was waiting for one from you guys :P Anyway, Joga was a great factor in helping me choose this sager.

[xpcdude]

Hey Justin , I`m still waiting for you guys to tell me about my ordered Sager 5790.... and a review soon :)

[Justin@XoticPC]

Please email us for any questions. We hope to post a review soon :D

[dragonflyseven]

Hello. I am probably going to order an 5790 in the next couple weeks, and I have a couple of questions.
1) The built in TV Tuner - is it HD?
2) Does anyone have any experience putting Ubuntu (a version of linux) on this computer?
3) How much more powerful is the better graphics card? Is there anywhere I can view reviews with gaming stats, such as frames per second, for this computer?
Thank you, and congratulations on being the best deal I could find.

[EDIT] 4) Can anyone tell me how much the difference between 5400rpm and 7200rpm hard drives affects gaming?

[xpcdude]

1, 2, I don't know.
3) The 7950 is at least 25% faster than the 8700GT and way better at anything, except for the lack of Dx10 support.
4) Hard drive speed affect just load time, so if you can wait 33% more loading time for the 5400 rpm drives, you can also gain some more battery life this way.

Edit : Justin, please answer my emails :P

[dragonflyseven]

Well, since I only want it if it is Hi-Def, I guess I will just buy one on newegg, since that would be cheaper anyway. Also, does anyone know how much 32bit XP versus 64bit vista would affect gaming performance. Vista eats more ram, but would the 64 bit make up for this?

[Renoir]

about win 64 vs 32 performance is about 5% better on win xp right now, but that changes with driver updates. New game should benefit from 4 gigs and 64 bit and hopefully better drivers. Right now win xp 32 bit is king in games, but that will change just like win 98 had better performance in games when win xp was released.

edit : there has also been a new hotfix for windows vista that fixes excessive memory usage by software, so this should make windows vista a more tight ship ;).

lates mate

[dragonflyseven]

Ok, thank you for that information. I guess I will go with XP then, since I will mostly be playing older games like Half Life 2, and Battlefield 2. Does anyone have a date for when the white trim will be availible?

[Justin@XoticPC]

Sorry there is no firm ETA on the white trim at this time :(

[xpcdude]

After hearing that I ordered a sager 5790 waaaay cheaper than anywhere else, a friend of mine decided that he wants it also...
The question is : how are you guys on 7950 gtx card for this notebook? can he order it and get it in MAXIMUM 2 weeks or should he wait?

PS: I'm glad i ordered mine, can't wait to get it :D

[Justin@XoticPC]

The 7950GTX is not expected in until he first part of September. The 8700 can ship right away :)

[xpcdude]

I ordered mine like a week ago with 7950...does this mean I`m not going to get it until september??? That is not good, because I need it until the 1st of september... :(

[Justin@XoticPC]

I am sorry that is correct, not until September....

[xpcdude]

So if you guys are expecting the 7950GTX in the first part of september,and then you have to test the system, when will you start shipping?

[Justin@XoticPC]

They will ship in 3-6 business days from the day they arrive :)

[xpcdude]

Apparently, you guys received some 7950 and I guess I will receive my laptop before the 7th of september after all...
One question is posed, as with all power hungry notebooks...how could I keep the temperature low, meaning coolers (if so, which brand do you reccommend) , notebook stands etc...
The laptop I currently own has an X1600 Gpu and under high stress , I hear the fan spinning very noisily and I want to avoid that as much as possible...
In the meantime ... I`m awaiting impatiently for my little monster :D

[S.Fly Buss]

I have a 5790 on order and I can't wait to get it! I did order it with the 7950GTX thus my order has been delayed. I was wondering about changing from the orange trim to the white trim. I wanted white originally but decided against it due to the fact that I wouldn't be able to get it until September. Now since I won't get it until September anyway...Would it be possible to change the trim to white at this point?

S.

[Justin@XoticPC]

We recommend using the system on a hard surface to keep air flowing into the bottom of the machine :) There is a good cooler by Zalman that works great and has great reviews :)


You can change to the white trim when it becomes available :) We still have no confirmed ETA on the white trim :(

[ScorpionX]

I also recently purchased a sager 5790. I was wondering if there is an ETA on the 7950gtx cards? I have a LAN party coming up mid september, and want to know if I should register or not.

Thanks!

[Justin@XoticPC]

We have been told by nVidia First to Mid September we will have the cards. Sorry no specific date :(

[ScorpionX]

no worries, work throws these every other month. I'll skip this unless I get it before the registration deadline. Or just throw my own, which ever :D

[xpcdude]

I've ordered mine several weeks ago and aparrently I might have to wait way more...I should have gone for the 8700GT,and I would have , if I would have known how much I have to wait for it :(

[Justin@XoticPC]

I apologize, we are also provided with vague information on the arrival of the parts. If you want to switch to the 8700 you still can if you prefer. We try to provide the same information we are provided and apologize the manufacturers do not always provide accurate ETA's.

[xpcdude]

I know Justin, but put yourself in our shoes, we're stressed because these are very expensive laptops and we just want to see them in our hands soon :D

Anyway, you guys are the best in customer service and profesionalism, so I tip my hat to y`all.
XoticPc all the way.

[Furtwangler]

I ordered and got my 5790 about a month ago and I love it, I do wish I got the TV tuner with it though... is there anything I can do to get that now? or do I have to go buy a USB one, seeing as it has the plug for it on the side of the computer, I'd rather use the one that it can come with instead of buying a different one.

*edit* also, I remember there being an offer to get a free usb data drive thing but I never received one, so was curious what happened to that as well, thanks :)

[Justin@XoticPC]

The Pen Drives are shipping out in bulk shipments. You can call in and order the TV Tuner at any time :)

[Furtwangler]

Even if I didnt get it as an option in the laptop? neat! will it charge to the card I ordered the laptop on or how would that work?

[xpcdude]

When you guys will receive the 7950GTXs , will you let us know?

[unknown555525]

Hey, I just ordered one of these with the 1920x1200 screen and the 8700GT, 2 day shipping, think I'll get it by tuesday?

Oh and hey, you guys should add an option to rush it out in like one or 2 days.. I would have easily given you guys an extra hundred or more to get it here by friday.

After laying down $2300 I'm kinda impatient :roll:

[xpcdude]

I ordered my laptop with the 7300 processor option(4 MB cache), and I don't see it available anymore...since I did not receive my laptop, what processor will I receive then ?

[unknown555525]

:D It's already been 30 hours since it said "sent to production" Get here already! :D I'd like it by tuesday :? guess that's not going to happen is it?

[xpcdude]

Those who ordered the 5790 will receive it like that or receive the 5791 instead? And you still haven't answered my question about the processor type ( will it be the 7300 I ordered or not? )

[ScorpionX]

Hello, I too am curious about the 5791, I would much rather have the turbo memory option, since mine hasn't been built yet, I would like this newer model. Should I just call in about this?

EDIT the other thing I noticed is that I ordered the 2.2 ghz dualcore, and now the 2.4 ghz is the same price! Can I change my order to this? Or am I stuck with what I ordered?

[xpcdude]

Will the ones who ordered the 7300 CPU receive the 7500 one or not? ( I added 55 $ from the original 1.8Ghz 7100 CPu, and now the standard is 2.0 7250)

[ScorpionX]

Are we gonna get an official response? Please :D

[xpcdude]

Yes, every T7300 will be upgraded for FREE to the T7500 due to Intel processor price drop.

PS : I'm getting my Sager tomorrow :D

[xpcdude]

I received it today ! Man, this laptop is AWESOME !!! :D

[illhockey13]

I ordered my 5790 on Augest 12th....It is now September 15 and my order status is still "sent to production". What is the deal with that, someone please help me figure this out...is there a problem or is somethin backordered...idk.... my order is...

1x XOTIC / SAGER NP5790 ( Clevo M570RU ) Intel Core 2 Duo "Santa Rosa" DUAL CORE / 17" WS/UXGA / 512MB nVidia GeForce 7950GTX PCI-Express Video / DDR2
- Display: 17" WSXGA "Matte" Super Clear Ul
- Arctic Silver: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: ~Intel® Core™2 Duo T7500 2.2GHz
- Video Card: 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce
- External Monitor Video Adapter: None Standard
- Ram: ~ 2,048MB DDR2 667 PC2 5300 (2 S
- Exterior Finish: NP5790 Orange Frame Trim Color
- Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 160GB Seagate Momentus 3GB/S S
- Floppy Drive: None Standard
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Camera: Built in 1.3Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: Built-In Multi Region TV Tuner w
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 24Bit CMSS 5
- Speaker Systems: Integrated System Speakers - Inc
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 496
- Wireless Network Accessories: None Standard
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Battery: Spare Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Ce
- AC Adapter: 110/220V 120W Auto Switching AC
- Car Adapter: None Standard
- Docking Station / Port Replicato: None Standard
- External Monitor: None Standard
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Optional Mouse or Keyboard: None Standard
- Notebook Cooler: None Standard
- Operating System: ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-B
- "Medialess" Microsoft Office Sof: None Standard
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): None Standard
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warra

If it takes a month to build a laptop I think i should have been informed beforehand or if something is backordered it would have been nice to know about it...I dont think im to impressed with xotic's customer support :? ... Anyone that might have any suggestions for me let me know....Thanks! :(

[T-rev]

Your graphics card is back ordered. I'm waiting for it too. :(

[xpcdude]

Don't worry about it, it was back ordered, and since the 7950GTXs just arrived this week, you should know it takes a little while they`re ready. Be sure that XoticPc is one of the best companies out there in both products and customer support. And I've waited over a month also, but it was worth it. I am the proud owner of one of the best laptops in the world :P

[ScorpionX]

Xotic PC, you guys are awesome! I got the updated processor, the 5791, and it's every bit as awesome as I was hoping!

[xpcdude]

How do you know whether it's a 5790 or a 5791?

[ScorpionX]

in the bios it has the ablity to activate the turbo memory (if you have it installed.)

[F575GTC]

im sorry about hiojacking this thread I dont mean to but I also don't want to start another thread about it, the 5791, are bios options locked? or are they fully customizeable? like can I overclock the cpu/gpu?

[ScorpionX]

I haven't messed with anything, but I have run across nothing that is locked.

[xpcdude]

I did not instal the turbo memory , because it would have delayed my order, so how can I know whether it's a 5790 or 5791? or is that just marketing and they're both the same? :P

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

You can always contact support at 800-741-2219 and give them your serial number.

[xpcdude]

Yup, it's the 5791. So if I want the Turbo Memory I can add it myself. Sweet.

Now, about the battery...
I had a laptop before this one, and I never removed the battery, and it still last over an hour and a half, pretty much the same as it did when it was new (it`s an hp nx9420 with 17' screen)
Should I remove it and store it somewhere special? since i am mainly using it as a desktop replacement..and rarely as a mobile platform..

[xpcdude]

Another question also... on some sites it says that the Clevo M57RU also has a card reader.. I haven't found any... does it or does it not have? because I got an offer of a 40in1 card reader,very cheap and I wonder if I should take it...

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

The Sager np5791 (Clevo M57RU) does have a "Built-in 7-in-1 memory card reader (MS/MSPRO/SD/MMC/RSMMC)"

[xpcdude]

Where? I can't find it :P

[Justin@XoticPC]

On the front right side. (Toward the front of the machine by the USB Ports)

[xpcdude]

Oh, it's under the remote control slot...and it has a rubber lid:P got it