Sager NP8660/8662 - Clevo M860TU Owners Lounge

[Lost]

Hey NP8660/2 owners!

I am looking to join this club and
just wanted to throw out two questions at you guys,

How loud does your laptop run?
Idle?
Normal use, i.e. web browsing, word processor?
Under load? gaming?
Does it get bothersome?

How is the temperature?
Is it uncomfortable?

Thanks:)

[DRY_ICE]

The laptop is not loud at all but can get a tad noisy when loading a disc... nothing unbearable though. As far as temps, it does tend to get a little warm and investing in a laptop cooler may be a good idea for gaming (I got the Zalman NC2000 cooler and it's great btw), but then again its a performance laptop so heat is going to generate. It is neither too loud nor too hot in my opinion, although some people may whine or nitpick. Overall I think it's very solid and a great laptop!

[lastdayx52]

Idle?
Not loud at all. In fact, you can't even hear the fan noise unless you're actively looking to hear it. There's a "silent" mode that also helps with this.

Normal use, i.e. web browsing, word processor?
See above.

Under load? gaming? Does it get bothersome?
It gets pretty damn loud. But you don't notice it due to game sounds and the fact that you're into the game (or you should be ;)).

How is the temperature? Is it uncomfortable?
I play games on top of a laptop chillpad, so no contact between the bottom of the laptop and myself, so can't comment on the comfort level when under full load. Light/idle, its not hot so its fine. The right palm/wrist rest area is unusually warm... Probably because of the ExpressCard that's in there.

Temperatures are as low as 30C (CPU) and 40C (GPU) to as high as 70C (CPU) and 80C (GPU), which is perfectly fine for high performance parts.



One thing I can comment about this laptop is the build quality. It's really solid, and I like it lots; one thing I hate is that there's no dedicated media keys... -_- Oh and mine came w/ a faulty motherboard, and had to deal w/ XoticPC/SAGER support to replace it (they were extremely nice :D).

Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase.

[blaq prophet]

how long is the usual shipping time? 2 weeks?

[DRY_ICE]

With the cheapest shipping I got mine in 7 business days - Ordered Friday, received on a Monday. Xotic/Sager had it manufactured and shipped in <3 business days... but UPS is another story.

[blaq prophet]

With the cheapest shipping I got mine in 7 business days - Ordered Friday, received on a Monday. Xotic/Sager had it manufactured and shipped in <3 business days... but UPS is another story.
okay good because from what i'm seeing from alot of people it takes 2-4 weeks

[DRY_ICE]

Yeah I think when it first came out there were a few shortages with parts... That should be over now I'd think. I think I either slipped in right before or right after the delays. You should be good though they don't mess around.

[fallenxlionheart]

my order took a long time too....but be patient...the computer is definetly worth the wait

[pvuong]

This is great my order just reached phase 2, and i hope i will get it soon.

[powerpack]

Could you all turn off your NP8662's I am trying to get some sleep.:p:D

Just kidding. I have not reread the entire thread but since you guys are now getting them I really would like to read more bragging about performance. Be it benchmarks or personal experience. It would I think help others to decide the pros and cons and help me to suggest too others. Informal comments from you owners have much value. In some ways more information than a formal review? :)

[Boknora]

I was thinking of buying the NP8662 laptop, but it seems a bit too costly for me. I was planning on keeping the laptop for 5 years(max) so I customized it to have 2.0 quad core instead of the default 2.53 dual. Is this a smart decision in terms of getting my money's worth? If you're wondering, I am getting the default video card that the NP8662 comes with. I am into gaming as well, and plan to game for the next 5 years with hopes of good performance.

[lastdayx52]

I was thinking of buying the NP8662 laptop, but it seems a bit too costly for me. I was planning on keeping the laptop for 5 years(max) so I customized it to have 2.0 quad core instead of the default 2.53 dual. Is this a smart decision in terms of getting my money's worth? If you're wondering, I am getting the default video card that the NP8662 comes with. I am into gaming as well, and plan to game for the next 5 years with hopes of good performance.

I advise you to not get the quad core, as 2.0GHz is quite slow for each core, and games currently (and probably for at least a couple of years) support dual core. They're not supporting/taking advantage of quad cores.

[Boknora]

okay. so is 2.66 dual core good enough to run games like crysis on max settings?

[fault]

I have a 2.53 ghz, and i can run it on max settings

[NasGhost]

I advise you to not get the quad core, as 2.0GHz is quite slow for each core, and games currently (and probably for at least a couple of years) support dual core. They're not supporting/taking advantage of quad cores.
That is now, but you should also think of the future you know? DX 11 is also going to add better multithreaded suport, ( which will be available to DX10 cards ) so games will have a higher likelyhood of supporting multicore systems.

[lastdayx52]

That is now, but you should also think of the future you know? DX 11 is also going to add better multithreaded suport, ( which will be available to DX10 cards ) so games will have a higher likelyhood of supporting multicore systems.

I do have the future in mind. 2.0GHz is still way too slow, imo. I would've gone for the quad core if they offered a faster clocked version.

[DRY_ICE]

I have a 2.8 dual and I can not run max Crysis... idk why people say they can? I can run at a pretty high level if you tweak the settings right and lower the resolution. Yeah, you CAN put it at highest settings but get <10 fps. Yippie... haha

[Boknora]

It's possible that it might be your video card that is not up to date. I've heard many times that even if your processor has a high clock speed, the ultimate factor in gaming performance is your video card. Also, one question. I am planning on upgrading in the future when quads with high clock speeds get cheaper, so would it be find to keep a dual core at 2.55? Some people say that the difference between 2.53 and 2.66 is hardly noticeable in gaming.

[DRY_ICE]

You're right... GPU is the biggest factor and yes it is up to date. The 8662 comes with the gtx260m so unless you swap it the 8662 does not run Crysis max. Oh, and as far as your CPU question... the diff even from 2.55 to 2.8 wouldn't be that noticeable. If you're strapped for cash go lower... the biggest consideration would be 25w vs 35w in dealing with heat generated (35 obviously being more).

[Boknora]

Thank you for the information Dry Ice. Sorry I can't give an answer to your question though. I'm gonna go with 2.53 and save quite a bit of cash then, and possibly upgrade to quads in the next 2 years if needed.

[Mafaraxas]

I ordered my 8662 last week, can't wait for it to arrive. As far as the screen goes, I chose the WSXGA+, mainly because I figure 1920x1200 is too much for me for 15.4", and playing games in that native resolution wouldn't be so great.

Of course, now that I read up on it, I might end up regretting getting a glossy screen. So the question is, has anyone tried replacing the screen with a third party's? Is it possible? Would it void the warranty? For example, I took a quick look on ebay, and there's a few 15.4" WSXGA+ matte from samsung, dell, HP, etc that are ~$80; anyone know if they'll work? Is there one in particular better than the others?

[Tabnir]

O_o http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10387317

Is that you?

[Mafaraxas]

yarr, heh. i basically said 'screw the budget' and went for it.

[mc511]

Wow so i ordered last thrusday and did a wire transfer and it was shipped tuesday night at like 11. now the last update ups has is it left CERRITOS , CA. that was 4am on the 22nd. So is ups realy bad in keeping with their updates? I have read earlier in this thread that they are. Or is is lost in the mail? Anyway its scheduled to be here monday thankfully. So i will be waiting around then i will head down the shore. Thanks for all your help.

[Tabnir]

Yeah I'm guessing you live around the east? Mine went from Cerritos and was silent until UPS suddenly showed it was in a nearby city one day before it was scheduled to arrive. And it arrived on time [with my 2nd NC1000 which actually came ahead of schedule to boot].

I wouldn't worry too much ^^

[mc511]

yeah i am an east coast boy. i live in jersey.

[tnole23]

Wow so i ordered last thrusday and did a wire transfer and it was shipped tuesday night at like 11. now the last update ups has is it left CERRITOS , CA. that was 4am on the 22nd. So is ups realy bad in keeping with their updates? I have read earlier in this thread that they are. Or is is lost in the mail? Anyway its scheduled to be here monday thankfully. So i will be waiting around then i will head down the shore. Thanks for all your help.

that's fast. i ordered mine on the 7th and it's still in the burn in process. i'm a bit dissappointed it's taken so long.

[n1ghT]

got my NP8662 a week or so ago and i must say its pretty amazing. It runs everything i throw its way effortlessly and the build is very sturdy. Im surprised at how light this laptop is considering its so powerful.

One thing im pretty pissed about is this stuck green pixel i have near the left side of the screen, and honestly (since im kind of a perfectionist :eeek2:) that kind of thing is a deal-breaker for me. Meaning if I had known that this laptop was this powerful but I also knew it had a stuck pixel, I wouldn't purchase it. I've tried everything from running software over it to massaging/tapping etc. and it still wont go away. I understand its not Xotic's fault, but there must be something that can be done...and that dead pixel policy is way to pricy for anybody to be adding that in their order, so please dont bring that up -_-.

[DRY_ICE]

http://www.jscreenfix.com/basic.php

Try that for a little while and see if it fixes it. I've heard it works pretty well.

[mc511]

To be honest xotic has been the best part in all of this. I think its nice that they act as a middle man between you and sager. Defiantly keeps things nice and smooth. I cannot wait to get this machine. Got alot to download and install.

[mc511]

that's fast. i ordered mine on the 7th and it's still in the burn in process. i'm a bit dissappointed it's taken so long.


Why is it taking so long? What payment method did you use?

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

that's fast. i ordered mine on the 7th and it's still in the burn in process. i'm a bit dissappointed it's taken so long.

I show that your order was submitted at 07/07/2009 19:02:20 and paid with an eCheck payment which takes approximately 3-5 business days to clear. The order was then moved to production on 07/16/2009 11:29:50 and today is currently the 6th business day in production. The production process takes approximately 3-7 business days to assemble, customize, test, and final QA the machine. At that time the order is shipped according to your chosen shipping method.

If you have any other questions of concerns, please feel free to email me at justinw@xoticpc.com and I'd be happy to help :)

[n1ghT]

http://www.jscreenfix.com/basic.php

Try that for a little while and see if it fixes it. I've heard it works pretty well.

Yea i said i tried software already and none of it works, UDpixel, Jscreenfix, some random color flashing thing i found on a blog. I've read things about people leaving the screen on for days and letting the software run but I'm not trying to let my laptop overheat and have the lifetime shortened over this pixel. All the things written about stuck pixels are for LCDs that you can turn off and on....but how do i turn the monitor on the LCD off and still have the computer on? I'd like to know if anybody could help.

I've tried massaging it with an uncomfortable amount of strength on the LCD.

I've used the tapping method and tapped it pretty dang hard. I used to be scared of this method because its very easy to get even more stuck pixels with tapping, but I did it anyways and still nothing.

Feeling hopeless i tried software running over it AND massaging in hopes of the two together maybe being able to solve my stuck pixel but nope, still nothing.

Honestly this stuck pixel thing is a bit of a joke...nobody wants to pay 1.5k for a laptop only to find out when they receive it that there's a stuck pixel. And its not a minor inconvience...i know it only shows up on darker images but when im watching a movie or videos...how can that green dot not get your attention. Like i said I dont blame xotic, but theres gotta be someway this can be solved. I didn't buy this laptop and expect to get a stuck (basically dead) pixel.

[tnole23]

I show that your order was submitted at 07/07/2009 19:02:20 and paid with an eCheck payment which takes approximately 3-5 business days to clear. The order was then moved to production on 07/16/2009 11:29:50 and today is currently the 6th business day in production. The production process takes approximately 3-7 business days to assemble, customize, test, and final QA the machine. At that time the order is shipped according to your chosen shipping method.

If you have any other questions of concerns, please feel free to email me at justinw@xoticpc.com and I'd be happy to help :)

yes, i check it regularly and am aware of the timeline it's on. i don't understand why echeck is preferred, instant transfer seems much better. either way, regardless of breakdown, just seems too long.

maybe i should've ordered the 8662, lol.

[DRY_ICE]

It's on schedule, you as the buyer should educate yourself on such things especially if it's important to you. Xotic is on the ball here... Stop whining.

[tnole23]

It's on schedule, you as the buyer should educate yourself on such things especially if it's important to you. Xotic is on the ball here... Stop whining.

lol, your statement is quite ignorant. it's on schedule? i'm not saying it's not. just saying their schedule is stretched pretty far. besides, other customs haven't taken half the time.....stop contributing dumba$$ comments. thank you.

[DRY_ICE]

I understand you're frustrated because you're anxious for your new laptop. But whining about a schedule you "understood" and your impatience isn't useful to anyone on the forum. If you have an issue that has nothing to do with the computer itself, contact customer service. I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I'm a little sick of just seeing you complain about something you fully understood/chose yourself. Ignorant? Maybe. Necessary? Completely. Have a nice day/few days - you could use them to acclimate yourself to the grown up world. Haha.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

yes, i check it regularly and am aware of the timeline it's on. i don't understand why echeck is preferred, instant transfer seems much better. either way, regardless of breakdown, just seems too long.

maybe i should've ordered the 8662, lol.

You do have the option to send a PayPal Instant Transfer payment, but keep in mind this payment method doesn't qualify you for the cash discount, whereas the PayPal eCheck does.

[tnole23]

I understand you're frustrated because you're anxious for your new laptop. But whining about a schedule you "understood" and your impatience isn't useful to anyone on the forum. If you have an issue that has nothing to do with the computer itself, contact customer service. I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I'm a little sick of just seeing you complain about something you fully understood/chose yourself. Ignorant? Maybe. Necessary? Completely. Have a nice day/few days - you could use them to acclimate yourself to the grown up world. Haha.

you're really quite something. read up, i was simply making a comment about my timeline in response to another member's post about theirs. that's it. i'm fully aware of the echeck wait, i was expecting it, but still don't like it. but not biggie. i just hoped my burn in(3-7days) woould be more like 3, monday will be day 7. but you are right about one thing, i'm anxious. i can't wait to get it. but the rest of your comments are just ridiculous. i'm not sure why you had to get all rough and tough. really, you're not impressing anyone. so go use the forum for helping people and asking questions(what it's for) instead of just being some tough guy. now you turned the last page of this thread into an argument. this isn't about me, so please stop making it so.

fyi, justin, i have no problems with you guys or xotic. i've expected the timeline as it is with waiting for echeck to clear. the burning(3-7days) i just hoped would've been closer to 3. my only problem is this pompous knowitall interjecting in a simple conversation.

[mc511]

I would want the company whoever it may be that is building the laptop to take their time and not rush into a burn in process. To be honest if its rushed something may not come out that good or whatnot. Heck i was surprised by my 2 day build time but now i realize it was built by a different vendor.


Speaking of getting my baby tomorrow, what should i do first? Like update vista or download drivers? What do you guys do?

[DRY_ICE]

really, you're not impressing anyone. so go use the forum for helping people and asking questions(what it's for) instead of just being some tough guy. now you turned the last page of this thread into an argument. this isn't about me, so please stop making it so.

fyi, justin, i have no problems with you guys or xotic. i've expected the timeline as it is with waiting for echeck to clear. the burning(3-7days) i just hoped would've been closer to 3. my only problem is this pompous knowitall interjecting in a simple conversation.


At least you recognize it somewhat, the next step is to realize what you've said and let it process a little. You're not helping anyone you're just annoying people with your ignorance. It's less of an argument and more of a nagging struggle with you digging your nails in to the dirt and refusing to let down your whining. I won't comment on it anymore - if you don't get it by now I should just assume you never will... the internet is after all open to everybody.

mc - Congrats on your reasonable patience as well as your new laptop. I would update vista first myself and then look for drivers as they may not be compatible with SP1 or older software. Enjoy!

[mc511]

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=446153&prodNameId=446154&swEnvOID=2100&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ly-49626-2




Well i need to download this driver for my printer. Do you think this will be fine for vista?

let me rephrase. Will i have any issues printing anything?

[DRY_ICE]

It's more likely than not that a printer driver wouldn't conflict with a change in sp. You should be fine if you don't want to update yet and install that driver. Worst case scenario is you have a conflict and you simply install/reinstall a newer driver. Also, that driver is from 2007, I highly doubt it would conflict being installed pre-update.

[mc511]

Okay so either way if i update before or after i should be okay? This is good. My dad got me the printer and i love it. Saved my ass too many times. I lost the disk but that was for XP. i am soo stooked for this thing. Wont be running games till wednesday so i can get my virus and programs on there on tuesday. And will be updating on monday. Busy busy week.

This site is soooo awesome!!!!

[mc511]

Yeah not meaning to double post but the package is 2 miles from my house. SWEETTTT!!!! should be here in the morning i think.

[mc511]

What should i disable in vista to make the HD run cooler? Was it windows indexing? Where do i get that? Also i heard a user on nbr had a screen ise after he installed the intel matrix driver. Should i still do this?

[fault]

Yea the HDMI port on my sager is broken, now i have to send it back for two weeks, ugh. And sager is taking a really long time to send me the labels too

[doublek19]

Guys.
I bought a 8660 last September. The graphics card geforce 9800m gt is overheating now days, around 90 degrees after 40 mins with fo3 highest settings. Have installed latest driver and using aluminum cooling pad but still overheats. I need some help!!

[lastdayx52]

Guys.
I bought a 8660 last September. The graphics card geforce 9800m gt is overheating now days, around 90 degrees after 40 mins with fo3 highest settings. Have installed latest driver and using aluminum cooling pad but still overheats. I need some help!!

I wouldn't consider 90C overheating for a high-performance GPU.

[DRY_ICE]

I wouldn't consider 90C overheating for a high-performance GPU.

Agreed, if it breaks the triple digit thresh hold you might have a problem, but you should be ok. It does seem a little warm though, especially with a decent cooler assuming yours is. What's the temperature of the air in the places you're using it? It is the summer, if your room isn't cooled well neither will you computer.

[doublek19]

Well guys the problem is the game starts lagging from a while (around 2-3 mins) after playing for some time then lags again after a few minutes..really annoyed by this.

[fault]

Well guys the problem is the game starts lagging from a while (around 2-3 mins) after playing for some time then lags again after a few minutes..really annoyed by this.
What game, what os, what processor, what cpu, what gpu?

[DRY_ICE]

Check to see if your fan unit/ports are clogged up and not circulating fresh air.

[mc511]

Just out of curisosity what firewall do you guys recommend using? I am looking at comodo and my dad uses it for xp. He seems to like it but i am worried that it may not be the best for a 64 bt os. Any suggestions? Or should i stick with vistas firewall?

[Mikers]

I hope I'm posting in the right place. I just received my very first Sager notebook two days ago and so far I'm loving it.

However, I'm a bit of a pack rat when it comes to spare parts. Is there a way I can purchase some extra screws? I'd love to add them to my collection.

Second, I'd like to know how to go about changing out the optical drive. Most other notebooks have a single screw that holds the drive in place but I see no easy way to upgrade the drive on the NP8662.

Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.

-M

[blaq prophet]

well it's been 8 business days and still in phase 2...:(

[blaq prophet]

When ordering your Laptop DO NOT USE THE SECURED PAYMENT OPTION because for some reason they wouldn't accept my check even though they had ahold of the charge on my card

[absolutz23]

Hi all, I just received my 8662.. hehehe.. been waiting for it for 2weeks and this might be the first sager notebook in my country... yuhuuuuu... :biggrin::biggrin:

thanks to Justin and Joseph... and also xoticpc.com :biggrin:

[fault]

Justin is the man, every time I call, i get him. Yea my NP8662 gets back tommorow from getting my HDMI port fixed, i cant wait to get it back

[saagar91]

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has been able to run Leopard on their np8662's.

Thanks,
Saagar

[fault]

Just got mine back, hopefully my HDMI works now

[azndragon0613]

Hey everyone,

I just received up my NP8662 about two weeks ago. Sorry I didn't share the excitement with you all on delivery day. Talk about an awesome graduation gift after college. Had to work with a budget cause I bought it myself but it was definitely worth the price. Here are my specs.

1680 x 1050
P8700 2.53 GHz 3 MB Cache
GTX 260m
4 GB RAM
320 GB 7200 RPM HD
Vista Home Premium 64 (gonna upgrade to 7 when it comes out)

This laptop is pretty powerful. Before this, I had a Gateway M series laptop with a Mobility Radeon HD2600. The computer was great and all but everytime I played Crysis, I would always compare "high" graphics to "med" graphics just to tell myself if only my card could run it. Well, no more pondering! I pumped through Crysis at "high" settings at 1680 x 1050 and easily (~25 fps). Ahh...I guess this is when the geek/enthusiast side of me shows.

Besides the gaming aspect, this laptop stays really cool. The history of the laptops I've owned ALL have had heat issues. HP Pavilion couldn't stop being a personal wrist heater, even after I sent it in to repair MULTIPLE times. As for my Gateway, temperatures would run up to the high 80s after gaming. I tried to get Gateway to fix it, but dealing with foreign people about technical issues with the computer really pissed me off. In light of all this, the NP8662 doesn't even break 62C right after Crysis with no notebook cooler. The fan slows down pretty fast too, say after 3-4 minutes after gaming. The hard drive does get a little hot. I tried installing Intel Matrix Storage Manager and the Chipset Utility. Apparently my version of the Chipset Utility is more recent so I just installed the Storage Manager. I FEEL like the hard drive is cooler, but sometimes it still hits 52 or 53C. I guess there is a slight difference though. The Sager's cooling system is very efficient and it gets the job done well. I think anyone who wants to buy a laptop should consider the amount of heat generated with their niche of usage. Not only is a warm/hot computer uncomfortable, but it doesn't promote durability.

Now the big question is will the laptop last for the next 2-3 years functioning the way it is now. I really doubt it since everything breaks down eventually, but I don't think it'll deviate too much if I maintain it. I was thinking about getting a can of compressed air to blow away dust. Check your vents! After two weeks of usage, I collected a lot of dust and that could really damage your internal components if it accumulates too much.

Oh, an one question for other NP8662 owners. Is it going to suck that bad when DX11 comes out and your gtx 260m is limited to DX10? You think, the GPU is swappable when the time comes?

Nonetheless, I would recommend this laptop to anyone looking for 15 inch power. No matter how hard other popular brand companies try to offer comparable 15 inch laptops for a lower price, the build and components of this laptop along with the other considerations like durability and reliability really stand out. It's very inconspicuous as a gaming laptop so it won't attract unnecessary attention. Everything about this laptop seems to mesh together nicely. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because I'm still on the high after buying a new gaming laptop. But, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this one crazy motherf****** beast?!

[DRY_ICE]

11 will be compatible with 10 cards.

[Blitzy]

Anyone finding the right side where ur palm rest when u type kinda warm? anyway to fix this?

[lastdayx52]

Anyone finding the right side where ur palm rest when u type kinda warm? anyway to fix this?

I have my Creative ExpressCard in the slot, so I assumed it was that. I don't mind it though...

[powerpack]

Remove palm from right side?:D:)

[Blitzy]

not when u are typing.unless u type by hovering ur fingers over the keyboard like trying to play a piano LOL..and nope i dun have any express card in the slot..

[azndragon0613]

The hard drive is under the right palm rest. It isn't well cooled, so that's probably why it is hot.

[Blitzy]

well looks like bios update wont solve that kinda issue i guess,thanks anyway.

[Kaze105]

Anyone know where to purchase a gtx 260m? Xoticpc doesnt sell and sager is ridiculously expensive.

[xtpd]

My husband and I got our matching computer's yesterday. I am impressed by how they look. The pictures just didn't give me a clear enough idea, but I have to say, they are very stylish in an understated way.

Also, going from .5 gig on my desktop to 4 on my Sager. Vrrooooooom.

I do have one dead/stuck pixel that I'm going to try my best to ignore. I have only noticed it at start up and then on this page - the background has to be very, very dark.

[EQplayer]

I took the plunge and bought the NP8662 today :biggrin:! 2.8 with 25v, blu-ray player, Vista 64 (which will be a new experience for me) and everything else is pretty much stock. Read thru this entire post it feels like and was thinking about getting the Zalman 2000. Pretty decent choice? Only reason I ask is because the fans seem low on the pad but the intake is a bit higher on the notebook it self. Anyway. Any other suggestions would be great! Im pretty excited and glad I didnt wait for the GT628... MSI lost out :eeek2:

[lovely09]

My sager makes my life easy from work and other duties.Most of my task are handed through my notebook.Very satisfied on how it works together with other software.

[ShagZ]

I use an external KB, the number of simultaneous keypresses that one can use on the laptops kb is limited to three. With a USB it is four. Without that fourth keypress I would be a newb in jets in bf2.

[Jack]

You're not the only one upgrading from 520MB worth of Ram to 4 gigs, I as well am upgrading from a 520MB PC to a 4GB laptop. I have joined the club by making my purchase today after speaking to Justin about my concerns regarding receiving my laptop before I leave for University. He was quick to respond--within 2 hours of my email--and assured me that if I upgrade to rushed production and did overnight shipping I will receive it within a week--before my departure date. The extra care for my order costed me an extra $200 but it is well worth it, and the regular price was $1500+ anyways. I must praise Justin for such stellar customer service, it was quick and friendly, unlike some of my past experiences with Dell. When the time comes to upgrade my laptop I think I'll go through XoticPC again.:notworthy Now I am just waiting for my laptop to be finished and delivered to me. Has any owners experienced any problems or have any concerns with the NP8662 other than the unstable spinning of the DVD drive?

[Jack]

Update: My laptop was completed in 1 and a half business day :eek:!!! It was shipped yesterday according to UPS--the notebook is out for delivery and I am waiting for it as I am typing this--and I wasn't even notified. The status of my order was updated today on the XoticPC. Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining about the fast production--I paid extra for the fast production--I'm just surprised the XoticPC team was able to do it under such a short amount of time. Kudos to you all!!! Hopefully I still get the grade A quality that the team usually offers. I'll keep you all updated when I get the notebook in my grubby hands. THANK-YOU JUSTIN AND PRODUCTION STAFF for getting this laptop to me on such short notice. :biggrin:

Update: After waiting for 11+ hours for UPS to deliver the package to me (can you believe it? 11+ hours in transit when it was in the same city as me 11+ hours ago) Installing WinXP Pro 64bit right now.

[Jack]

My review:

Last week I was in the process of selecting and purchasing a notebook from one of Sager's resellers--it wasn't at XoticPC--until I came across a bunch of positive reviews of XoticPC and a few negative reviews for the reseller I was going to do business with. After reading such positive reviews I decided I would give XoticPC a chance; but there was one problem, I had about 1 week before I leave for University therefore I would need the laptop built and shipped to me in a week. I immediately contacted Justin W.--the owner of the company--land we exchanged a few e-mails last Wednesday and Thursday. Justin responded to the e-mails in 2 hours everytime; I must compliment Justin for his quick and helpful responses, that is the type of customer service I am looking for. Which company could you contact the owner and have him respond to your concerns in such a short amount of time? The conversation mainly revolved around the ability of XoticPC delivering a laptop to me at/berfore a certain date. Justin assured me that I will get my laptop before my date if I upgraded to rushed production and overnight shipping. I placed my order on Friday of the same week and Justin put in a comment and upgraded the production to rushed for me since the checkout does not offer that option of rushed production. Later that day after placing my order I received a call from an accounting rep, Elizabeth, who was quite friendly, telling me that my credit card company denied the charge. When I sorted it out with my credit card company I called back and spoke with a sales rep who seemed enthusiastic to assist me, he transferred me to the accounting rep I spoke with earlier. I told the accounting rep that I sorted the problem out and I asked her how would I go about claiming the studet discount and she instructed me to either e-mail Justin through my student e-mail or send XoticPC a copy of my student ID--I chose the e-mail route obviously. I was exteremely pleased with the friendly staff at XoticPC and their ability to answer my questions, unlike other companies that I did business with in the past, who would transfer you around the world--literally and non literally--and still have your question not addressed. On the following Monday I checked the status of my order and it stated "Phase 2-build/burn in". The very next it showed that the order was shipped through UPS and when I checked the tracking number it indicated that it was checked in at 5:47PM PST the previous day; I'm guessing the website didn't get to update the status before shipping since it was after hours of operation, but nonetheless I was extemely pleased that it only took 1 and a half business day to complete my laptop. I finally reeived my laptop after waiting for 11+ hours for UPS to be on transit delivering my package. It took a total of 2 and a half business days--if you don't count Saturday and Sunday--for me to receive my Sager NP8662 from the moment of me placing the order, but it did cost me about $150+ extra ($49 for rushed production, which is quite reasonable IMO, and $100+ for overnight shipping). I regret paying for the overnight shipping, had I known that I could've gotten my notebook prior to the date I move out of state even with 3 day ground shipping. I was a little worried about the quality of the notebook at first. So far I have tested everything except the RAM and there are no dead pixels on the LCD screen. I have encountered 2 small: the loud noise generated by the DVD drive due to it shaking when running the CD, and the video camera driver not installing. The DVD drive is a common and known problem and I wasn't too surprised when it occured. The video driver problem was a nuissance though. I turned on my video camera and tried to install the driver from the CD that was included and it always gave me a message of "Make sure camera is enabled". I was certain the camera was on, because I checked the device manager to make sure it was enabled and I pressed the fn + f10 key and it said "camera power on". Eventually I had to give a call to tech support at 1 AM in the morning and the guy on the other line instructed me to download the driver from the Sager website. After downloading the driver it was able to install but after installation the BisonCam program wouldn't run, it would give me an error message that said "make sure to turn on the camera" even when the camera was on. The tech support guy thought this was stranged and advise me to check the device manager again, and low and behold... the driver wasn't registered. I tried to install the driver yet again, but this time through the device manager and it worked after that attempt. I'd like to thank the XoticPC team for delivering me such an excellent product, I will certainly do business with these guys again in the future and will recommend all my family and friends to XoticPC when they purchase a notebook.

EDIT:

PS: I would like to mention the mouse pad for the notebook is extremely sensitive--too sensitive for my liking. And I would like to note that I spent about 2 hours to type this review on my Sager NP8662 but Justin and his company deserves it for all the work they put into getting me such a good quality notebook so quickly. I am extremely pleased that the quality wasn't compromised by the speed of production.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

Thank you for your kind words Jack! I'm glad i was able to work with you and get your notebook to you in a very timely fashion :D

If you ever have any other questions, please feel free to email me again at justinw@xoticpc.com

Thanks, Justin W

[EQplayer]

Wow... I'm still waiting on mine. Did the USPS (forgot they dont have a tracking system) and it seems like its been forever. I live in Hawaii tho so you cant really expect much. I just don't care much for UPS... more of a FedEx kid.

[Harrisonl007]

Hi,
I was trying to figure out whether or not I should get the zalman NC1000($42) , the Zalman NC1500 ($34) or the Zalman NC2000 ($59)? Which one would fit the sager np8662 better? And would all of them fit? Thanks!:)
PS: Im buying these from newegg if that helps.... :smile2:

[markjsc]

Hi,
I was trying to figure out whether or not I should get the zalman NC1000($42) , the Zalman NC1500 ($34) or the Zalman NC2000 ($59)? Which one would fit the sager np8662 better? And would all of them fit? Thanks!:)
PS: Im buying these from newegg if that helps.... :smile2:
I don't know about the others, but the NC2000 is the one I have. It fits nicely with a couple inches of extra space on the sides. I'd rather have a cooler that's larger than the laptop than the other way around.

[Harrisonl007]

I don't know about the others, but the NC2000 is the one I have. It fits nicely with a couple inches of extra space on the sides. I'd rather have a cooler that's larger than the laptop than the other way around.Yeah I was thinking the same, but the thing is I don't have a bag that fits anything more than a 15.4 inch. Im thinking the Zalman 2000 is a 17 inch right? Anyways I'm still debating whether or not the extra $20 is worth it...:confused:
Doest the Zalman 2000 fit in a 15.4 inch bag?
-Thanks

[Harrisonl007]

I have a couple of quick question. How hot does the temp get when you have been gaming for 4 hours? Is the cooling system in the Np8662 sufficient enough without a laptop cooler? I have heard stories of peoples laptop's motherboard melting on them due to heat related issues (not np8662), just wondering if that would happen with the Np8662 or is it just cheaper non-sufficient brands?
-Thanks

[DRY_ICE]

I have the NC2000 and I think it's the best choice for the 8662... cools very well and completely encompasses the bottom. And no it will not fit in a 15.4" bag sadly, sorry.

[powerpack]

Harrison no the MoBo will not melt.

[Harrisonl007]

Harrison no the MoBo will not melt.

lol, yeah that's what I thought. And it's very reassuring. Can't wait for my Sager np8662 it's in phase 4!!! :)

[mannes]

Can anyone tell me what the best cpu that can be upgraded in the np8662? Is it the Q9300?

[DLalonde]

I have absolutely no idea why, but for some reason my laptop doesnt seem to be able to read the battery charge level, or anything about it.
It always says its either 100%, or completely dead, even at full charge.. I have tried another program (called battery bar) and it gives the same readings..

What could be causing the problem and what can I do to remedy it?

Thanks!

[Meowz0r]

Just got mine in today. I must say that I am extremely satisfied with my new 8662. There was one dead pixel on the top left hand side of the screen, but it is barely noticeable and does not bother me at all. What kind of load operating temps are you guys getting? I've got a p9700 and i'm hitting about 72c on prime after about 2.5hrs of prior use. I went ahead and ordered the nc-2000 which should remedy the issue :D.

[xpython]

I am now the proud owner of a Sager NP8662 and I'm loving it! Processed, built, shipped, and DELIVERED within 5 business days (using UPS ground shipping too!). OUTSTANDING service! Thank you XoticPC! :D

[azndragon0613]

Hey Np8662 owners! Woot!

So, I bought my Np8662 a while back in July and I have to say it's still running pretty darn well. I noticed my first small scratch yesterday and it definitely sucked. Haha! I did want to ask everyone here if they'd cleaned out the laptop hardware yet. The fan has accumulated not a lot but a good amount of dust and I want to try to clean it. I am a bit nervous about damaging the components though. Anyone tried to clean it and could offer tips/guide on how to do it?

Thanks

[Fashby]

Just ordered my 8662 (specs in my sig!) yesterday. Cannot wait for my laptop to arrive. I am getting a little worried about hearing stories about stuck/dead pixels and UPS treating their packages poorly. Where does XoticPC ship out of? I'm in SoCal.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

Hey Np8662 owners! Woot!

So, I bought my Np8662 a while back in July and I have to say it's still running pretty darn well. I noticed my first small scratch yesterday and it definitely sucked. Haha! I did want to ask everyone here if they'd cleaned out the laptop hardware yet. The fan has accumulated not a lot but a good amount of dust and I want to try to clean it. I am a bit nervous about damaging the components though. Anyone tried to clean it and could offer tips/guide on how to do it?

Thanks

I'd recommend using a can of compressed air, but when you blow into the fans, lock/hold them so they don't spin freely as this damages the fans.

[BSPiotr]

Another 8662 purchaser. Ordered it yesterday, now just waiting for my echeck to clear. =)

[darimlys]

just got my sager np 8662 and it runs cod 4 like a beast. I am a bit worried about the GPU temp is in the high 90's c and maxed out at 102c. Should I be worried.

[DRY_ICE]

It is a little warm. I would recommend getting a cooler like the Zalman NC-2000 if you play a lot of games. I have it for my 8662 and it keeps temps wayyy lower. It'll definitely help keep the life of the laptop longer.

[darimlys]

It is a little warm. I would recommend getting a cooler like the Zalman NC-2000 if you play a lot of games. I have it for my 8662 and it keeps temps wayyy lower. It'll definitely help keep the life of the laptop longer.

I am using a zalman nc-2000. :(

[BSPiotr]

Hope everything is good off the payment end, echeck cleared and no word from xotic yet @_@. Can't wait for my laptop. Also, I'd talk to Justin/CS about seeing if everything is seated right.

[DRY_ICE]

I am using a zalman nc-2000. :(

That's odd. I usually only go in to the 80's (90's if the room is hot) under heavy load. Maybe it's a little dirty or the fan on the cooler isn't set to high? The fan speed makes a good difference, as well as what surface it's on. A smooth flat surface will give the best airflow while a textured or bumpy (carpet, legs) would make the cooling less effective.

[darimlys]

That's odd. I usually only go in to the 80's (90's if the room is hot) under heavy load. Maybe it's a little dirty or the fan on the cooler isn't set to high? The fan speed makes a good difference, as well as what surface it's on. A smooth flat surface will give the best airflow while a textured or bumpy (carpet, legs) would make the cooling less effective.

the fan on the cooler is def on the higest setting. Its really cold here too. If it runs this hot during the winter. I am worried what it is gonna run like in the summer :(. I am getting 102c playing cod 4 :(

[DRY_ICE]

Well the thing about the winter is heat is turned on and the summer ac is turned on. It doesn't matter what it's like outside unless you have no ventilation system.

Those temps do seem a little high but at the same time it should be ok (it won't melt your system). What are you monitoring with? Have you checked the internals of the laptop? Something just doesn't sound right to me.

[darimlys]

Well the thing about the winter is heat is turned on and the summer ac is turned on. It doesn't matter what it's like outside unless you have no ventilation system.

Those temps do seem a little high but at the same time it should be ok (it won't melt your system). What are you monitoring with? Have you checked the internals of the laptop? Something just doesn't sound right to me.

I am using hwmonitor and rivatuner. Both give the same results. I already tried reapplying thermal grease but It did not help. Just spoke with xoticpc and sager on phone and got a RMA. Its strange because the video card stays very cool when just surfing the net and watching videos never goes beyond 45c max. But after like 1 hour+ of gaming it gets in the 100c+ area.

[DRY_ICE]

Yeah it sounds like a fan issue then, maybe it's not kicking into the higher rpms.

[feldhaker]

I've had my NP8662 for about 2 weeks now and I'm very happy with it. I'm just wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a 3rd party power adapter for this laptop. Yes, Yes, I know, I shouldn't cheap out on a power adapter on a $2000+ laptop. I'm not complaining about the price of the adapter from sager, but merely the size. I have tried the kensington k33197 120w power adapter, which was nice and slim, but the laptop actually froze within 10 minutes of use of that power adapter. I plan on using the 120w power adapter that came with it at home, but for travel to school, I want to have something a little less bulky.

Does it have to be a 120w power adapter? If it just wouldn't charge as quickly could you use a smaller one? Anyone have any success stories or suggestions?

[BSPiotr]

Just had my first night with my 8662 today :) Its been amazing. Everything installed perfectly, everything works as promised, and the compy is beautiful as hell.
I've pretty much installed everything I've needed (just need to fix a wifi problem thats related to the modem and not the compy), and am working on transferring my old document files.
I've noticed that 64 bit is eating a quarter of my RAM though... and my card is running at about 50~ not too bad though, both stay stable even through additions of programs and running on my lap.
I have to agree on a bulky adapter, but I'm not sure on what to do with it. So far it isn't a big issue though. For some reason the right mouse button is harder to press, too... oh well for the most part this thing is awesome @_@

[fault]

Has any1 upgraded their CPU or their GPU at all?

[nimitz]

I've had my Sager NP8660 for just over 1 year (12/01/08), and recently I've had a problem with the DVI port that I'm not sure how to fix. I have an external monitor hooked up to the laptop and all of a sudden, the monitor kept displaying "no signal."

I've tried using different DVI cables, different monitors, and it still gives me the same result. What would you guys suggest I do? Its only been 21 days out of the 1 year warranty so would I be SOL if i had to fix it?

Thanks

[aznguyen316]

NP8662, which are best game performance drivers for the GTX 260m? Is it still the 185.85 Dox optimized?

[powerpack]

NP8662, which are best game performance drivers for the GTX 260m? Is it still the 185.85 Dox optimized?Use the ones it shipped with. Do not look for new ones unless you have issues.;):)

[aznguyen316]

Use the ones it shipped with. Do not look for new ones unless you have issues.;):)

cool.. also what hard drive does xoticpc usually use? The NP8662 I'm getting was built from here and is the 320GB 7200RPM, so I'm gonna assume Seagate 7200.3?

[DRY_ICE]

They have 195.62 out for windows 7 x64 based systems as that's what I just recently installed. I'm assuming this is the best driver as each time they update the driver, they add in the release notes optimizations for specific games as well as other beneficial tweaks.

Also, if you're interested in overclocking your card look into nVidia System Tools 6.05 (most current I believe). It'll allow you to change the core/mem/shader values on the card. I usually OC to 600/900/1500 respectively and get a nice little boost out of it with stable performance.

[BSPiotr]

Well actually Nvidia has a bad habit of releasing drivers that break more than they fix, and so the "best" "new" drivers tend to be the same until several drivers down the line of research. That said, I'm not changing my drivers until maybe 6 mo. in... the ones they shipped with in Dec. are decently new o.o

[DRY_ICE]

You could go that route of "if it ain't broke don't fix it", but I have to disagree and say that I think for the most part, with a few exceptions, the newest graphics drivers are generally a good thing to have.

[powerpack]

cool.. also what hard drive does xoticpc usually use? The NP8662 I'm getting was built from here and is the 320GB 7200RPM, so I'm gonna assume Seagate 7200.3?I can't comment all MFG bid for specs and get the cheapest that meets. Sure some know what it is I don't but I don't think it matters.;)

Well actually Nvidia has a bad habit of releasing drivers that break more than they fix, and so the "best" "new" drivers tend to be the same until several drivers down the line of research. That said, I'm not changing my drivers until maybe 6 mo. in... the ones they shipped with in Dec. are decently new o.oIntersting?

You could go that route of "if it ain't broke don't fix it", but I have to disagree and say that I think for the most part, with a few exceptions, the newest graphics drivers are generally a good thing to have.Dry I must disagree. And without getting into things I do not 100% understand so I cannot explain. Drivers are simple software or some might even say code? Yea I know the same but others do differentiate. Drivers are simple code to interface the only way updates will help is if the earlier was flawed. What you talk about improvements on certain games? In the real world 9 times out of 10 those are patches true fixes for what is really bad coding. The real problem not the HW interface? I played with drivers back in the day. Back with ATI rage and W98SE. It was a trade off and that means it is a trade off. One trick they have is even if you set say AA at something the driver does not allow. So now you think you have AA set at something and you FPS improve? Guess what not really. If you manually set to the same AA you would get the same FPS. This is just an example to be obvious but that is sometimes exactly what happens. I used one improved 3DMark and frames but could not pass a "check sum" test? Tricks.

Drivers are made to address issues the anomaly that they improve performance is anecdotal unless known issues. On notebooks your MFG has tested the most stable available at the time.

Do as Dry says but if issues remember what you did and consider going back.;)

[Meowz0r]

Has anyone been having issues with their laptop while the power adapter is unplugged? I'm running Win 7 x64, and whenever I unplug the power it automatically down clocks the cpu (2.8) to 1.6. I have the power options set to high performance and have gone into advanced settings and set the minimum on battery to 100%. It doesn't look like the bios has any options for disabling ahci either :( I believe this to be a chipset driver issue, but i'm curious to see if any of you all have had any similar issues.

[BSPiotr]

I believe thats a function of the Intel CPU's. That downclock occurs to me all the time - even on AC power - when I'm not actively using the CPU. You should check and see the speed when you're playing a game/using the CPU, it should clock back up to 2.8 Ghz.

I believe I saw an option for AHCI mode <--> IDE mode in Bios. But I wouldn't play with it once you've installed windows - bad idea.

[zdlalonde]

Hey everyone.
I've had my NP8662 since last August I believe.

Here's what I get under System Information:
OS - 6.1.7600 Build 7600
System Type - x64 Based PC
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHZ
Bios Version/Date - Phoenix Technoogies LTD 1.02.16S LS1, 5/13/2009
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) - 4.00GB
Available Physical Memory - 2.79GB
Disk Drive - Hitachi HTS723225L9A360 ATA Device (Size - 232GB (250 was advertised TBH))

Ran all the drivers off the driver CD that I got from XoticPC
Laptop ran great for months.
Problems started piling up eventually though.
1. Laptop gets INCREDIBLY HOT
2. Initially, speedfan and other programs read the heat readings, now they don't, not sure why...
3. Laptop makes annoying sound ALWAYS, and unbearable sounds when gaming. (Like vroom... Vroom... Vroom... Vroom) Sounds like a washing machine.
4. Microphone just stopped working, says drivers are all up to date, but mic doesn't work, not even external ones.
5. Battery Meter doesn't work, always has a battery with a red X over it, but says "plugged in and charging". Because of this I have no idea about my battery life ever. Other programs I've DL'd don't work either.
6. NO WHERE NEAR enough USB power. I have a NZXT CRYO Cooler, hardly works, when it's plugged in and I turn on the laptop, it says something like: "USB Hub X Overcharging" USB ports sometimes just don't work at all and I am forced to restart to regain functionality of mouse, iPhone charger... anything.

I'm beginning to get concerned.. I payed $1600 for this laptop, as advertised, it looks/sounds incredible.. But constantly encountering issues is making me grow tired.. Will anyone lend me a helping hand? Share some advice? Tell me who to talk to? Tell me how to fix these problems?

Thanks.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

What we recommend doing is contacting the telephone technical support department for further troubleshooting assistance. View our contact us webpage for the technical support numbers here (http://www.xoticpc.com/contact_us.php).

[powerpack]

What no double posting rule? Anew and I covered this in another thread? But to OP please send in?

[tmo2009]

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has found a way to overclock the 8662 as of yet?
I've been looking around and have yet to find anything that works. Would updating the bios allow overclocking in the bios?

[mc511]

Okay i got this baby in July, and wow i must say this thing has been through hell and back with me. Last semester I took a 3d animation class and the program we used was Maya 8.0. Very intense on the system while rendring .tiffs. I must have rendered out my project into 7 different scenes and rendered each 3 times. Maybe about 90-120 frames in each render i would say. Many computers at my school which are mac pros with intel xenos and desktop 8800's would freeze but thats probably due to the systems always updating. Even some of my friends at school complained of problems with their own computers freezing while rendering in maya. Although my sager always did so just fine and never gave me any issues whatsoever. I am also using this laptop for heavy photoshop work since i am the graphic designer for my game this semseter and photoshop cs3 blazes through this thing just fine. I am talking multiple layers opened with layer effects on and filters. I would say about 14 layers per .psd file and some are grouped. Again i ordered enough ram and cpu power to handle such things.

Oh then there is gaming. Batman: Arkyam Asylum plays great at high settings and so does Crysis. Since i dont have a 360 i will be getting Mas Effect 2 which should run just fine on this thing. Overall i am so pleased with xotic pc and sager. My previous 2 laptops were a Alienware area 51 m5500 which had a pentium m and a macbook white model with a decent core 2 duo but a lousy intel graphics chips. I think i got the best of both worlds with my 15inch notebook and then some. I have tested every component from the webcam, finger print reader to the dvd burner and everything has been a smooth ride. I cant complain about anything. Maybe the fact that i dont have much HD space left (89.3 gigs) would be my only fault but the again that my issue for not ordering a bigger drive. I would like to think i am spoiled by Sager Clevo and xotic for being so helping in my school work and play time. I am a customer for life.

[doublek19]

Ok guys,
I think I have a problem here. I see visible vertical line on the boot screen and the windows wont boot completely and hangs. I think its a gpu problem (9800gt). Then i run it on safe mode to uninstall the driver and rebooted to find vertical lines still visible even using vga graphics adapter.
Help me!!

[ssnsltd]

I've had my 8660 for two days. It seems like a solid system, but still loading software.
One issue is the Turbo Memory 2.0, I can't get it to enable the "ReadyBoost". The selection is grayed out and can't be selected. The memory console shows that it has 4 Gig, and has Ready Drive enabled.
Any ideas??

Dpower

Hello,
I have an NP8662 and having a similar issue above with my 2gb Turbo memory. I can click "enable ReadyBoost" but each time I restart, it comes up not selected again. I searched under this thread and did not see another post- very much apologize if this has been asked/answered. If someone would share a link?

Thanks
David

[williamr]

I'm having issues using the new nvidia 260.99 drivers, blue screens, anyone using anything current?
mahalo,

[Unmesin]

Hello *,
I also began to get troubles with this machine. Own mine 8662.
First of all, under heavy load the temperature is getting damn high. I mean, really - up to 105 Celcius degrees (after I noticed that, I yelled and turned the machine off). Now the automatic protective mechanism is working correctly, and it shuts the power down when temperature reaches 96 degrees - and I must say, it can be easily achieved. So I have to use RMClock to force decrease CPU clock rate from 3.06 to 0.83 to lower the temperature, when it gets critical. Using 2.78 GHz nearly gets me out of this problem, yet... I'm not really happy with that =)
One more problem is, I guess, related to heat problem. While using SOME full-screen applications like games, the picture will in random moment just freeze. Does that in WinXP, Win7, Red Hat and Ubuntu - no exclusions. I can still live with this, as this happens not in every program, but the number of problematic applications is dangerously growing.
Maybe anyone knows what can be done to get rid of this freezes? =)

[Maverick494]

Hello *,
I also began to get troubles with this machine. Own mine 8662.
First of all, under heavy load the temperature is getting damn high. I mean, really - up to 105 Celcius degrees (after I noticed that, I yelled and turned the machine off). Now the automatic protective mechanism is working correctly, and it shuts the power down when temperature reaches 96 degrees - and I must say, it can be easily achieved. So I have to use RMClock to force decrease CPU clock rate from 3.06 to 0.83 to lower the temperature, when it gets critical. Using 2.78 GHz nearly gets me out of this problem, yet... I'm not really happy with that =)
One more problem is, I guess, related to heat problem. While using SOME full-screen applications like games, the picture will in random moment just freeze. Does that in WinXP, Win7, Red Hat and Ubuntu - no exclusions. I can still live with this, as this happens not in every program, but the number of problematic applications is dangerously growing.
Maybe anyone knows what can be done to get rid of this freezes? =)

have you ever taken it apart and cleaned?

[DRY_ICE]

Welcome to 2011 my sweet sager 8662... I still think you're a quality machine capable of handling anything today has to offer - even though I built a desktop to replace you.

Hooray for reviving a dead thread!

P.S. @ Unmesin it sounds like your fan is failing or dead. The 8662 is a breeze to open up, maybe you should take a look.

[ben_m_88]

I tried to upgrade my NP8662 to 2x4GB of DDR3 RAM (currently has 2x2GB of DDR3). It wouldn't boot at all, just a black screen and the wifi light was yellow. I tried both sticks individually thinking one of them could have been faulty, but no dice :(

[Skarn]

I tried to upgrade my NP8662 to 2x4GB of DDR3 RAM (currently has 2x2GB of DDR3). It wouldn't boot at all, just a black screen and the wifi light was yellow. I tried both sticks individually thinking one of them could have been faulty, but no dice :(
What speed of memory did you get, and do the original sticks still work after trying the new ones?

[ben_m_88]

I tried a BIOS update and each stick individually (thinking one of them could have been bad, but that didn't work). The old RAM still works.

Here's the specs:
Current RAM:
2x Transcend 2GB DDR3 1066 SO-DIMM
product page

New RAM:
2x Corsair 4GB DDR3 1066 SO-DIMM
product page

[Skarn]

The old RAM still works.

Here's the specs:
Current RAM:
2x Transcend 2GB DDR3 1066 SO-DIMM
product page

New RAM:
2x Corsair 4GB DDR3 1066 SO-DIMM
product page
I just checked the user manual -- 4GB is the maximum memory supported (2x2GB). 1GB sticks are also supported, but not 4GB sticks.

[ben_m_88]

Right, I read that as well, however when I bought the laptop, I had the option of getting 2x4GB sticks as an upgrade. I've also read of people putting in 2x4GB.

[woodsteez]

Hey anyone know where I can find a compatible ac adapter and a new battery for my 8662? couldn't find it on the xoticpc website.

thanks!

[Maverick494]

Hey anyone know where I can find a compatible ac adapter and a new battery for my 8662? couldn't find it on the xoticpc website.

thanks!

http://www.laptoppartsnow.com/sa86npm8seli.html

http://www.laptoppartsnow.com/sa86npm8sere.html

[flamespear]

I bought my NP8662 back in October 09 and i'm looking to upgrade my components now any suggestions? I want to do at least 8 gigs of ram...i think SSD are still too expensive but i'd like to see options, gpu i'm quite happy with cpu i'd like better now. Any thoughts?

1x Sager NP8662 (Built on Clevo M860TU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Display: 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- External Graphics Card: No External Graphics Card
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- External Monitor Video Adapter: No Video Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Intel® Robson Turbo Memory: 4GB Intel® Robson Turbo Memory I
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Microsoft Office Software (Media: No Office Software
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler
- Operating System: ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-B
- Optical Drive: ~ 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Supe
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapter: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
- Processor: ~Intel® P8800 45nm "Montevina" C
- Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Chan
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
- Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 260M 1,024MB
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warra
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 530
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory

[flamespear]

...*sigh*...still no reply finding it hard to see any recent discussion on this too...i'd really like a list of compatible components and places to buy.

[mickrio]

I just checked the user manual -- 4GB is the maximum memory supported (2x2GB). 1GB sticks are also supported, but not 4GB sticks.

[Stizuner]

I have an np8660 machine and when at work i would like to connect the display to external monitors.

Is there any way to get the screen to output to 3 displays? If not how about just 2 external and not the laptop screen?

[Stizuner]

4gb sticks are supported, it doesnt say it because when the machine was released there was not many 4 gb sticks available.

But i have 2 4gb ddr 1600mhz in mine. (self upgraded)