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Knightfall84
06-05-2009, 03:40 PM
Yeah, I wanted to buy a decent gaming laptop, If you guys could give me a few suggestions that would be great.
Here are my requirements:
1) What is your budget?
Between 1000-1300$

2) What size notebook would you prefer?
c. Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen

3) What country are you buying this in?
USA

4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
None, Except the ones which offer low build quality.

5) What tasks will you be performing with the notebook?
Mainly, Gaming

6) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places or leaving it on your desk?
Mostly leaving it at my desk, weill be carrying it around from time to time

7) Will you be playing games on it; if so, which games?
Yes; Crysis, Assassin's Creed, Mas Effect, Bioshock

8) How many hours of battery life do you need?
1-2 hrs. Not really concerned about it.

9) Do you mind buying online without seeing the notebook in person?
No, i do not mind.

10) What OS do you prefer? (more details below)
-Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit

Screen Specifics

11) From the choices below, what screen resolutions would you prefer? (more details below)
Widescreen
e. WSXGA+ - 1680x1050; Wider viewing version of SXGA, good for movie viewing or spreadsheets.
12) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non glossy screen?
Glossy

Build Quality and Design

13) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
Not Much.

14) When are you buying this laptop and how long do you want this laptop to last?
Buying it maybe a month from now, Want it to last maybe 4-5 years.

Notebook Components

15) How much hard drive space do you want; 80GB, 160GB, 250GB, 320GB, 500GB, 1TB, or 1.5TB?
250-320 GB

16) Do you need an optical drive? If yes, a CDRW/DVD-ROM, CD/DVD Burner or Blu-Ray drive?
Yes, reqire an optical drive CD/DVD Burner

17) What speed CPU/Processor would you like? Dual core or Quad Core CPU?
Dual Core for budget, 2.4-2.66Ghz



I'd really appreciate some help here. I had my eyes on:
1)The Sager np8662-Strains the budget, but this is one I want badly.
2)Gateway P-7805u FX-Overheating and low0res screen
3)ASUS n81vp-Ok, Just not TOO impressed with the graphics performance.
4)HP HDx16t-Low resolution, Kinda low graphics.....

I really want to get my hands on the Sager, but with the Specs I chose, 1500$ is just a bit too much. Hoping to persuade my dad but not too optimistic.:XPCS:

Joseph@XoticPC
06-05-2009, 05:21 PM
Knightfall 84 thank you for your post. If you can stretch your budget to that 8662 that would be ideal, it is the fastest 15.4" on the market. However if you cant nudge your dad to bump your budget up I have come up with a few other options.


(http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7D 1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113% 7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513) Sager NP2096 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7D 1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113% 7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support $1,074.00 http://www.xoticpc.com/images/pixel_trans.gif Sub-Total: $1074.00This next model has better graphics then the 2096, but doesnt have as high of a screen resolution due to its 16:9 nature. It does have ddr3 memory in both the GPU and the RAM which is a very nice benefit in this pricepoint.

Sager NP2098 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal KHLB2) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2581%7B76%7D1476%7B18 7%7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2300%7B186 %7D1532%7B93%7D2266%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7 D1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7 D890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7 D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106% 7D1691%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7 D1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113 %7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513)
- 15.6" HD 16:9 WXGA Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy LED Screen (1366x768)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- ATI HD4650 512MB PCI-Express DDR3
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB) -
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (6-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support $999.00 http://www.xoticpc.com/images/pixel_trans.gif Sub-Total: $999.00

Both of these models would perform very well for you in your budget. If you can swing the np8662 it would be a nice difference in performance. However there is a nice price difference too. Feel fee to send me an email.

Knightfall84
06-05-2009, 06:04 PM
Knightfall 84 thank you for your post. If you can stretch your budget to that 8662 that would be ideal, it is the fastest 15.4" on the market. However if you cant nudge your dad to bump your budget up I have come up with a few other options.


(http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7D 1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113% 7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513) Sager NP2096 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7D 1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113% 7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support $1,074.00 http://www.xoticpc.com/images/pixel_trans.gif Sub-Total: $1074.00This next model has better graphics then the 2096, but doesnt have as high of a screen resolution due to its 16:9 nature. It does have ddr3 memory in both the GPU and the RAM which is a very nice benefit in this pricepoint.

Sager NP2098 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal KHLB2) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2581%7B76%7D1476%7B18 7%7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2300%7B186 %7D1532%7B93%7D2266%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7 D1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7 D890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7 D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106% 7D1691%7B121%7D694%7B108%7D710%7B109%7D711%7B170%7 D1591%7B173%7D1175%7B167%7D1452%7B103%7D1889%7B113 %7D1413%7B111%7D1414%7B69%7D1513)
- 15.6" HD 16:9 WXGA Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy LED Screen (1366x768)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- ATI HD4650 512MB PCI-Express DDR3
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB) -
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (6-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support $999.00 http://www.xoticpc.com/images/pixel_trans.gif Sub-Total: $999.00

Both of these models would perform very well for you in your budget. If you can swing the np8662 it would be a nice difference in performance. However there is a nice price difference too. Feel fee to send me an email.


Thanks for the quick reply.
The above models seem perfect save for one detail...I guess it's the Graphics card. I've compared performances and it seems the 260m is way better than the 4650 ATI or 9600 GT. Is there ANY way I can bump up the graphics in the above two models without exceeding a 1300 cap? Like, I dunno, maybe installing another mobile graphics chipset? I'm not too well-versed in this stuff...so I don't know if it's possible or not.....

My Dad's rooting for Dell, which I've grown to acutely loathe due to it's limited selection of Graphics cards. The highest they go to is a 3870 512MB.....As far as I know.

Even if the 4650's Memory could be bumped up to 1GB, that would be perfect, because the 1 GB variant has performed quite close (Comparative terms) to the 260m.

Thanks for your time, it helps a lot.
Good Day.

Anewbus
06-05-2009, 06:06 PM
Hi Knightfall,

Well, who doesn’t want an NP8662?! I know I do.
Anyway, one suggestion is that you could save up a couple of hundred dollars yourself if you have a way of doing that inside say 6 months and then your dad can foot the rest within the budget constraints he is willing to go to. Just a thought.
For now let’s say you have no way of saving some $ up.
Ok, working with the budget you have you obviously want the best value for dollar therefore I will advise you to stay away from the HP and Gateway unless you want to be buying a new one again in a year. The performance on those two are rather poor for the money they cost and you can forget about support.
I’m not familiar with the Asus n81vp so I can’t really comment on that.

However, for the money you would have to pay (or your dad would have to pay) for the HP or Gateway you could get a Sager from XoticPC which would blow the big names like HP away. You also would have support!
With proper care the laptops from XoticPC will easily last 4 years.

Here are some more options:

This one is a good value for dollar right now:
Comes with everything, but the OS is Vista 32 and not 64. You can get the 64 bit, but it would put you over budget.

MSI GT627 - 218 - BACK ORDER (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2555%7B76%7D650%7B94% 7D1074%7B92%7D1987%7B88%7D1067%7B186%7D1532%7B93%7 D1645%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D1797%7B96%7D1969%7B168%7D 1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D707%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D1 747%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D 1441%7B107%7D2259%7B106%7D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7 D710%7B109%7D%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050) `
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -Intel® P8600 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.40GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt - ENS
- nVidia GeForce 9800M GS 1024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory -
- Standard Finish
- - 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default Hard Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless A/B/G/N
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- MSI Matching Backpack
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 32-Bit w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's - Standard
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year MSI Parts & Labor Limited Warranty with Lifetime Tech Support

TOTAL = $1260.03 with cash discount



Here is a Sager (just not the 8662). I configured it with a nice powerful CPU and Vista 64
It’s well with in budget.

Sager NP2096 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support

TOTAL =$1041.78 with cash discount


Finally, here is another one that is basically the same machine as the 2096 but different config options.
Here I dropped the CPU a notch, but it won’t have much impact on performance if anything noticeable. Still with the Vista 64 and all, but I was able to add the XoticPC best warranty 3 years parts and labor and keep it well within budget.

FORCE 3310 (Built on COMPAL JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2455%7B76%7D1743%7B18 7%7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D1978%7B88%7D2410%7B186 %7D1532%7B93%7D2459%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7 D1799%7B96%7D2461%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7 D890%7B120%7D702%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7 D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106% 7D1688%7B12%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -Intel® P8400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.26GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt - Blowout Special!
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- - 4,096MB (Corsair, Kingston, Major Brand) DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMs) Dual Channel Memory
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive w/ Software
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- -Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Complete Care Warranty - 3 Year Parts with Next Day Shipping, 24/7 Telephone Tech Support & Lifetime Labor Warranty

TOTAL = $1151.39 with cash discount


Note, these three machines may not run games like Crysis and Bioshock at the highest settings, but may do rather well at medium or next to highest. However, I can’t really say as I am a casual gamer and not familiar with the requirements of the games you listed. There are plenty of folks here who are though and I’m sure they will be along to fill in the gaps.

powerpack
06-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Performance wise for gaming the MSI wins. The 2096 does well but the resolution is below your stated wants. Make no mistake the Force with the 9600m GT can game. I have a lesser GPU and can play Bioshock high settings and avg above 20fps in the demo.

Joseph@XoticPC
06-05-2009, 06:41 PM
I agree the MSI for the money has outstanding features and has a much better GPU then the others stated. You said you would probably be looking in about a month. You never know what new models will be out then as well ")

Knightfall84
06-05-2009, 07:33 PM
Hi Knightfall,

Well, who doesn’t want an NP8662?! I know I do.
Anyway, one suggestion is that you could save up a couple of hundred dollars yourself if you have a way of doing that inside say 6 months and then your dad can foot the rest within the budget constraints he is willing to go to. Just a thought.
For now let’s say you have no way of saving some $ up.
Ok, working with the budget you have you obviously want the best value for dollar therefore I will advise you to stay away from the HP and Gateway unless you want to be buying a new one again in a year. The performance on those two are rather poor for the money they cost and you can forget about support.
I’m not familiar with the Asus n81vp so I can’t really comment on that.

However, for the money you would have to pay (or your dad would have to pay) for the HP or Gateway you could get a Sager from XoticPC which would blow the big names like HP away. You also would have support!
With proper care the laptops from XoticPC will easily last 4 years.

Here are some more options:

This one is a good value for dollar right now:
Comes with everything, but the OS is Vista 32 and not 64. You can get the 64 bit, but it would put you over budget.

MSI GT627 - 218 - BACK ORDER (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2555%7B76%7D650%7B94% 7D1074%7B92%7D1987%7B88%7D1067%7B186%7D1532%7B93%7 D1645%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D1797%7B96%7D1969%7B168%7D 1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D707%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D1 747%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D 1441%7B107%7D2259%7B106%7D1688%7B121%7D694%7B108%7 D710%7B109%7D%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050) `
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -Intel® P8600 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.40GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt - ENS
- nVidia GeForce 9800M GS 1024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory -
- Standard Finish
- - 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default Hard Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless A/B/G/N
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- MSI Matching Backpack
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 32-Bit w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's - Standard
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year MSI Parts & Labor Limited Warranty with Lifetime Tech Support

TOTAL = $1260.03 with cash discount



Here is a Sager (just not the 8662). I configured it with a nice powerful CPU and Vista 64
It’s well with in budget.

Sager NP2096 Custom Laptop (Built on the Compal JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2409%7B76%7D647%7B187 %7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D2422%7B88%7D2410%7B186% 7D1532%7B93%7D2044%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7D 1295%7B96%7D2434%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7D 890%7B120%7D703%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7D 1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106%7 D1688%7B121%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support

TOTAL =$1041.78 with cash discount


Finally, here is another one that is basically the same machine as the 2096 but different config options.
Here I dropped the CPU a notch, but it won’t have much impact on performance if anything noticeable. Still with the Vista 64 and all, but I was able to add the XoticPC best warranty 3 years parts and labor and keep it well within budget.

FORCE 3310 (Built on COMPAL JHL90) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2455%7B76%7D1743%7B18 7%7D1757%7B94%7D1074%7B92%7D1978%7B88%7D2410%7B186 %7D1532%7B93%7D2459%7B193%7D657%7B112%7D656%7B98%7 D1799%7B96%7D2461%7B168%7D1453%7B116%7D696%7B117%7 D890%7B120%7D702%7B110%7D2486%7B169%7D1449%7B119%7 D1898%7B100%7D734%7B164%7D1441%7B107%7D1539%7B106% 7D1688%7B12%20)
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -Intel® P8400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.26GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt - Blowout Special!
- nVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512MB PCI-Express DDR2 DX10
- No Video Adapter
- - 4,096MB (Corsair, Kingston, Major Brand) DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMs) Dual Channel Memory
- None Standard--
- Standard Finish
- - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive w/ Software
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- -Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Complete Care Warranty - 3 Year Parts with Next Day Shipping, 24/7 Telephone Tech Support & Lifetime Labor Warranty

TOTAL = $1151.39 with cash discount


Note, these three machines may not run games like Crysis and Bioshock at the highest settings, but may do rather well at medium or next to highest. However, I can’t really say as I am a casual gamer and not familiar with the requirements of the games you listed. There are plenty of folks here who are though and I’m sure they will be along to fill in the gaps.



Thanks a whole lot, man. i'd lost hope for a while.....
This is great, I think I'll go with the MSI you mentioned...Seriously, i wont go so far so as to say you saved my life, but you did save me a lot of trouble (and bucks, lets not forget that)

I just had one more request, could you personally vouch for the MSI? I've heard it's got heating and build problems....If I get a good review there's nothing Stopping me! I hope......My E-mail is 'darkstar_ray84@yahoo.com'

Thanks again!