Latest On ASUS G73JH-A1 [Archive] - Page 7

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 11:25 AM

Hey, what do you guys think would be a good bag for transporting this beast? I need one which can hold some textbooks too (university classes) but the priority would be protecting the G73. I can do either a backpack or a bag (like a messenger bag), whatever you guys think would be best?
http://www.slappa.com/catalog/laptop-bags I have one of the ballistix auras. Very very nice bag. When I get the lappy I'll tell you for sure how much extra space you will have. It's plenty big enough for the laptop and a cooler I know for sure.

Fr0st

03-28-2010, 11:38 AM

http://www.slappa.com/catalog/laptop-bags I have one of the ballistix auras. Very very nice bag. When I get the lappy I'll tell you for sure how much extra space you will have. It's plenty big enough for the laptop and a cooler I know for sure.

Woah, some very nice looking bags on that page - thanks for the link! +REP.

Which model do you have?

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 11:41 AM

Woah, some very nice looking bags on that page - thanks for the link! +REP.

Which model do you have?
Second one. Orange and grey ballistix aura laptop shoulder bag. By far the nicest sachel I have ever owned. Though it is big. :smile2: Don't get one if you want something compact. It's slightly thicker than a standard briefcase, about 6 inches.

jbermi

03-28-2010, 11:59 AM

Second one. Orange and grey ballistix aura laptop shoulder bag. By far the nicest sachel I have ever owned. Though it is big. :smile2: Don't get one if you want something compact. It's slightly thicker than a standard briefcase, about 6 inches.

does the main compartment have a divider or something to protect the laptop, if you know what I mean...I bought a bag for my laptop which i am thinking is about the same size as the g73, it says 17's will fit. but if it doesn't i will return and take another look at the one you got.

frost - if my laptop fits in this backpack I have, there is a ton of room left still. would be a good one for school...I got it at best buy, i tried putting a g72 they had on display in it and was snug fit but plenty of room for anything else you want.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Ogio+-+P9+Laptop+Backpack+-+Black/9716688.p?id=1218182337886&skuId=9716688

Fr0st

03-28-2010, 12:04 PM

Second one. Orange and grey ballistix aura laptop shoulder bag. By far the nicest sachel I have ever owned. Though it is big. :smile2: Don't get one if you want something compact. It's slightly thicker than a standard briefcase, about 6 inches.

I really like that one. I was looking at the backpacks on that site too, they look nice. Do you think the messenger bag/satchel bag you have would be big enough to carry the laptop + college stuff, like books/notebooks/folders?

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 12:25 PM

does the main compartment have a divider or something to protect the laptop, if you know what I mean...
The compartment is divided, it is also well padded.

Do you think the messenger bag/satchel bag you have would be big enough to carry the laptop + college stuff, like books/notebooks/folders?
There is a good amount of space in this bag. With the laptop in the rear compartment, nearest your body, you'd have the second compartment measuring 17"w, 13"h, 3"d. There are pockets on either side measuring 5"w, 7"h, A cable pocket on the under side of the flap measuring 16"w, 3"h, 2 cell phone size pockets, and another pocket 10"w, 9"h on the front face under the flap. There is also a dual access pocket on the back of the sachel that's 17"w, 11"h that would be idea for folders, papers, or other thin items.

I'll post some picks with the g73 in it when/if I even get it, if you want to wait and see before you buy.

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 12:36 PM

I will probably pick up a sleeve when the g73 gets here... Though I'm not sure it will fit in the bag w/ the sleeve on. Thus I'm waiting to see how much wiggle room I have. FYI If it does fit, the strap on the shoulder bag is detachable... So, if you get a sleeve, don't buy the extra strap. You won't need it.

Fr0st

03-28-2010, 12:44 PM

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 12:50 PM

I really like the sleeves they sell there, especially the "matrix" one. I'm just worried about suffocating the laptop if I leave it in a sleeve for a couple hours? You don't think it'll overheat? (assuming of course that it's been placed into sleep/standby mode)
I wouldn't leave it on in the sleeve. Ever. It would definately overheat. It's like running a car without any coolant. As for leaving it in the sleeve when the lappy is off, sure why not? I wouldn't leave it in a car, full sun, windows closed, in the sleeve.... But under normal conditions the laptop won't overheat as it doesn't create heat when off.

jbermi

03-28-2010, 01:02 PM

I wouldn't leave it on in the sleeve. Ever. It would definately overheat. It's like running a car without any coolant. As for leaving it in the sleeve when the lappy is off, sure why not? I wouldn't leave it in a car, full sun, windows closed, in the sleeve.... But under normal conditions the laptop won't overheat as it doesn't create heat when off.

I think he may of meant when just powering it down and its still warm and putting it in a sleeve...which may not be the best idea, i think thats what he is referring to.

romerom

03-28-2010, 01:04 PM

http://www.slappa.com/catalog/laptop-bags I have one of the ballistix auras. Very very nice bag. When I get the lappy I'll tell you for sure how much extra space you will have. It's plenty big enough for the laptop and a cooler I know for sure.

i got this one: http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/backpack-cl55088/3

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 01:11 PM

I think he may of meant when just powering it down and its still warm and putting it in a sleeve...which may not be the best idea, i think thats what he is referring to.
Ah, if that's the case I really don't think it is an issue. It could be... Better safe than sorry. But the temperature isn't going to increase when putting it into a sleeve... It'd be a matter of how residual affects other components and the sustained slow decline of overall temperature.
i got this one: http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/backpack-cl55088/3
I like the guts of this backpack, the look isn't for me.

striker1010

03-28-2010, 01:15 PM

Braeyn

03-28-2010, 01:17 PM

Seems like you guys plan on buying a seperate bag/carrying backpack. Is the G73 bag that comes with the laptop not good or something? Just asking cuz if it's not good I might get a seperate one too. In the vid it looked good that's why I asked.
I've heard it is ok. Nothing fantastic but not horrible. I just happen to like sachel style bags instead of backpacks. And I figured I would buy one that might last me a few lappys.

romerom

03-28-2010, 01:18 PM

Seems like you guys plan on buying a seperate bag/carrying backpack. Is the G73 bag that comes with the laptop not good or something? Just asking cuz if it's not good I might get a seperate one too. In the vid it looked good that's why I asked.

nah it's not that at all.. for me, at least.

I've had my backpack for some time now. "incase" bags are pretty sweet :)

Fr0st

03-28-2010, 02:39 PM

Seems like you guys plan on buying a seperate bag/carrying backpack. Is the G73 bag that comes with the laptop not good or something? Just asking cuz if it's not good I might get a seperate one too. In the vid it looked good that's why I asked.

I'm going to check out the included bag before buying an after-market one, I'm just checking around now. My biggest concern is getting one suitable for the laptop + school work, and the included bag doesn't look big enough for that. And I'm sure the quality is questionable. I don't mind investing extra money in this to protect my belongings but that's just how I am =P

Fr0st

03-28-2010, 02:40 PM

Well, they did ban my IP, but they can never ban me from entering here and replying to painsniffer ^^:biggrin:

I think the insult you are thinking of is paint sniffer. Not pain. If you're gonna insult someone, do it right! :wink2:

striker1010

03-28-2010, 02:43 PM

I think the insult you are thinking of is paint sniffer. Not pain. If you're gonna insult someone, do it right! :wink2:

lol

I think u guys should ignore this guy obviously he got nothing better to do that start shit here on our forums. Why waste your time replying to him :)

Fingersniffer

03-28-2010, 06:09 PM

That's kinda why I didn't bother writing any more, felt kinda sorry for him not knowing he only reinforces what I posted earlier.

choyj

03-29-2010, 03:37 AM

Here's a game that will eat your G73 alive: Metro 2033 (http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6028008)
It'll be interesting to see how bearable it will be to run it in DX11.

Oooohh! I got a rep power point! Must be from all that OT stuff I keep posting.

Aragog

03-29-2010, 10:53 AM

Following the Metro 2033 link I have seen some comments on the awful failure rate of the G73... perhaps you have already discussed it in past pages, if not, what do you think of it?

UntilMoraleImproves

03-29-2010, 10:56 AM

Following the Metro 2033 link I have seen some comments on the awful failure rate of the G73... perhaps you have already discussed it in past pages, if not, what do you think of it?

Can you link to some of the posts? I'd be very interested to read them and see what, specifically, is failing.

Aragog

03-29-2010, 11:11 AM

Some messages in moderation, I hope this not. Temperatures, quite high for one of them, other people with issues not stated. Check on pages 154 y 155 essentially.

Braeyn

03-29-2010, 12:10 PM

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=461117
It's an older thread, but you will see some of the issues. Keyboard lag, not recognizing all 8gb, sound cracking, Bsod, faulty gpu, hard locks... It's pretty standard stuff. Really it was like 25% failure rate for people on the forum out of the first batch of g73s. It's been much much lower on the more recent batches. Keep in mind that it was about 25% for people on the forum, and we all know that most people without issue never post on a forum about it.

UntilMoraleImproves

03-29-2010, 12:19 PM

It's an older thread, but you will see some of the issues. Keyboard lag, not recognizing all 8gb, sound cracking, Bsod, faulty gpu, hard locks... It's pretty standard stuff. Really it was like 25% failure rate for people on the forum out of the first batch of g73s. It's been much much lower on the more recent batches. Keep in mind that it was about 25% for people on the forum, and we all know that most people without issue never post on a forum about it.

First, let me congratulate you on matching my rep points. I'll have to do something about that.:eek:

As for the problems, some I could deal with and others would piss me off. Keyboard lag, not recognizing all 8GB, sound issues, etc, are all things I can handle. On the other hand, I'd be upset with a BSOD, bad GPU and hard locks. That stuff is just not acceptable to me.

I would not be a happy camper if I waited all this time and ended up turning it around with an RMA. Obviously it wouldn't be Xotic's fault and I wouldn't hold them accountable but I would be pissed at ASUS for not testing their machines before they hit the street.

My hope is that by getting the wireless card Xotic will put the rig through its paces and find any issues before it gets to me. I will now keep my fingers crossed for until I get the rig and knock on every piece of wood I come across, including anything in my pants. KIDDING :wink2:

Braeyn

03-29-2010, 12:27 PM

First, let me congratulate you on matching my rep points. I'll have to do something about that.:eek:

As for the problems, some I could deal with and others would piss me off. Keyboard lag, not recognizing all 8GB, sound issues, etc, are all things I can handle. On the other hand, I'd be upset with a BSOD, bad GPU and hard locks. That stuff is just not acceptable to me.

I would not be a happy camper if I waited all this time and ended up turning it around with an RMA. Obviously it wouldn't be Xotic's fault and I wouldn't hold them accountable but I would be pissed at ASUS for not testing their machines before they hit the street.

My hope is that by getting the wireless card Xotic will put the rig through its paces and find any issues before it gets to me. I will now keep my fingers crossed for until I get the rig and knock on every piece of wood I come across, including anything in my pants. KIDDING :wink2:
LOL... Honestly the hard locks almost always happened within the first couple of hours heavy gaming. So if you get past that it isn't going to be an issue. The sound issue is with the creative software. It's an easy fix. The keyboard lag was a known asus issue and is spotty at best.

Braeyn

03-29-2010, 12:29 PM

First, let me congratulate you on matching my rep points. I'll have to do something about that.:eek:
I was just trying to be more like you. :biggrin: You and Powerpack are my idols.

UntilMoraleImproves

03-29-2010, 12:42 PM

I was just trying to be more like you. :biggrin: You and Powerpack are my idols.

Really? Aww. And I was growing a chin-strap with plans on dying it orange to be like you!

Kunari

03-29-2010, 01:12 PM

I was just trying to be more like you. :biggrin: You and Powerpack are my idols.

You two want a little "alone time"? :laugh:

UntilMoraleImproves

03-29-2010, 01:17 PM

You two want a little "alone time"? :laugh:
LOL Kunari, you have to read through all the posts to get it, haha, B is my bro. We're twins. Separated at birth. Born in different years. With different parents. In different parts of the country.

You getting all of this? :p

Kunari

03-29-2010, 01:25 PM

LOL Kunari, you have to read through all the posts to get it, haha, B is my bro. We're twins. Separated at birth. Born in different years. With different parents. In different parts of the country.

You getting all of this? :p

I've skimmed over a majority of this and the wait list thread. You guys are great, I was just poking you guys in the ribs.

UntilMoraleImproves

03-29-2010, 01:25 PM

I've skimmed over a majority of this and the wait list thread. You guys are great, I was just poking you guys in the ribs.

As long as it is only in the ribs, it is all good! ;)

Kunari

03-29-2010, 01:29 PM

As long as it is only in the ribs, it is all good! ;)

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Braeyn

03-29-2010, 01:33 PM

I've skimmed over a majority of this and the wait list thread. You guys are great, I was just poking you guys in the ribs.
Otherwise it would be cheating.:wink2:

Halaster

03-29-2010, 01:35 PM

I have entered Phase 2 as of this morning.
:D

Kunari

03-29-2010, 01:38 PM

I have entered Phase 2 as of this morning.
:D

Where's the jealous emote when I need it.

Grats dude!

Christoff

03-29-2010, 04:26 PM

So aside from bitching about the spacebar I have to say the mouse that comes with it is pretty sweet. I think I find it a bit more comfortable than my logitech g500. But it doesn't have as many features (like changing the scroll wheel and a couple extra buttons)

The mouse with the Asus does have two thumb buttons. I haven't used any other razor mouses (considered the mamba) but I just may use this one instead of my g500 and maybe in the future I might get a mamba. Also has on the fly adjustable DPI and looks nice

The biggest thing is it leaves the wrist in a nice neutralin line position. And while I don't have big hands the g500 seems just a tad to small. Especially for the bottom part of the palm right where it meets the wrist.

Anyone else have any mouse to compare the one that comes with the lappy to?

Kunari

03-29-2010, 04:54 PM

So aside from bitching about the spacebar I have to say the mouse that comes with it is pretty sweet. I think I find it a bit more comfortable than my logitech mx518....

I have a mx510 and it's my fav too. I wasn't really big on trying the new one but I just will now that you say it's good. I was temped one time by a Razor Naga, but then a friend game me a n52te to try.

Christoff

03-29-2010, 05:29 PM

Wow, my mistake. I meant the G500 mouse! That's the other one I have

DuBy

03-30-2010, 10:26 AM

Damn, no posts since yesterday? OMG! Xotic fell off the face of the earth!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Por Que!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

drremi

03-30-2010, 01:38 PM

Damn, no posts since yesterday? OMG! Xotic fell off the face of the earth!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Por Que!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

No everyone migrated to the post! Crazy!!!!

desipalen

04-02-2010, 06:46 PM

Maverick494

04-02-2010, 07:53 PM

Hmm... apparently the G73JH-A1 ships w/o any blu-ray playing software? I've seen reviews which I believe included PowerDVD. Am I crazy?

I can download software easily enough, I was just shocked to find a player with no decoding software...

if you have a source for freeware bluray playback please do share. I have at this point been completely unable to find a single source for free playback software that is bluray capable.

desipalen

04-02-2010, 08:18 PM

There is no "free" Blu-ray decoder software. DVD and Blu-ray players usually come with decoders included, but the manufacturer supposedly pays for your licence. I've heard of people who have purchased drives only to find they did not come with a decoder, but it's never happened to me before. I honestly thought it only happened to ppl stupid enough to buy off-brand products or purchase drives second-hand.

I've heard you can configure ffdshow filter to play the files on a blu-ray disk, but I've been unsuccessfull so far.

ludain

04-02-2010, 10:48 PM

you can download windvd8 BD from asus at http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/ATKDrv/WinDVD8_BD_80B20100_2ch.zip

Jeffccw

04-02-2010, 11:10 PM

Hi...
I am a new user, I really want to buy g78jh a1, but how long do I need to wait?
and anyone know that how much is the freight cost to Hong Kong ?

retron09

04-02-2010, 11:15 PM

Hi...
I am a new user, I really want to buy g78jh a1, but how long do I need to wait?
and anyone know that how much is the freight cost to Hong Kong ?

There is no g78jh a1...yet. It's the G73JH-A1.:yes:

dylan121

04-02-2010, 11:21 PM

There is no g78jh a1...yet. It's the G73JH-A1.:yes:

Of course there is, it has the Intel XEON processor, with tri 5870's!

Jeffccw

04-02-2010, 11:21 PM

There is no g78jh a1...yet. It's the G73JH-A1.:yes:
HAHA...typing error...:notworthy

retron09

04-02-2010, 11:23 PM

HAHA...typing error...:notworthy

Is there not an Asian model of it available in Hong Kong?

Jeffccw

04-02-2010, 11:35 PM

Is there not an Asian model of it available in Hong Kong?
G73JH is not available in HK...SO SAD!!!!

retron09

04-02-2010, 11:40 PM

G73JH is not available in HK...SO SAD!!!!

Xotic PC has a waiting list for it, but so do almost all other online retailers. Xotic PC has very good customer support. You can research online and look at all options available to you. ASUS has started producing more of the G73's so wait times for it should be starting to get shorter. I don't know how much shipping would be to Hong Kong, that's something you'd have to ask the retailer.
Hope this helps some.:wink2:

Jeffccw

04-03-2010, 06:34 AM

Xotic PC has a waiting list for it, but so do almost all other online retailers. Xotic PC has very good customer support. You can research online and look at all options available to you. ASUS has started producing more of the G73's so wait times for it should be starting to get shorter. I don't know how much shipping would be to Hong Kong, that's something you'd have to ask the retailer.
Hope this helps some.:wink2:
Thanks for you help.
the standard spec is enough for me, but I am afraid the list when i saw it, there are over 100 waiting

dylan121

04-03-2010, 08:12 AM

Xotic PC has a waiting list for it, but so do almost all other online retailers. Xotic PC has very good customer support. You can research online and look at all options available to you. ASUS has started producing more of the G73's so wait times for it should be starting to get shorter. I don't know how much shipping would be to Hong Kong, that's something you'd have to ask the retailer.
Hope this helps some.:wink2:

Also note, I wouldn't order elsewhere - You're essentially getting ripped off, because they know supply / demand - so prices have been boosted elsewhere.

retron09

04-03-2010, 10:51 AM

Also note, I wouldn't order elsewhere - You're essentially getting ripped off, because they know supply / demand - so prices have been boosted elsewhere.

I agree. Your wait won't be as long as the first people on the list because ASUS is producing ALOT more units now. Order with Xotic, they're probably the best company out there...EXCELLENT customer support.:notworthy

powerpack

04-03-2010, 12:41 PM

And if you order from somewhere else retron will "I Kill you!"

And Jeff that is not a complete or official waiting list.

Christoff

04-03-2010, 01:22 PM

This space bar still sucks!

Fingersniffer

04-03-2010, 03:23 PM

This space bar still sucks!

On the G73? I've had no issues with it at all.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-03-2010, 03:37 PM

On the G73? I've had no issues with it at all.

Me either. I really like the entire keyboard actually. It took me a mintute or two to get used to it but since then it has been a pleasure to type on.

retron09

04-03-2010, 09:25 PM

This space bar still sucks!

Maybe you just have a weak thumb and didn't know it before.:laugh::laugh:

Christoff

04-03-2010, 09:50 PM

Fingersniffer

04-03-2010, 10:25 PM

So I'm going to start using the mouse that came with the laptop...

The manual says install software from the included disc. Did anyone else get a disc? I'm trying to find the files online for it.

It works when plugged in I'd just like all the other features and such

The G73 comes with a Drivers and Utilities disk, if you didn't get it you can download all the drivers and software from ASUS.

And yes there is software for the mouse on the website and disk.

Christoff

04-03-2010, 10:57 PM

My disc didn't have it for whatever reasoned. Browsed it and everything.

I did get it online here though.

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=8je5Ot4HBnKOdT81

Under USB

singleshot71

04-03-2010, 11:00 PM

So I'm going to start using the mouse that came with the laptop...

The manual says install software from the included disc. Did anyone else get a disc? I'm trying to find the files online for it.

It works when plugged in I'd just like all the other features and such
I just plugged mine in....It's working. Why should put the disk in. Isn't it just for recovery?

Christoff

04-03-2010, 11:12 PM

I just plugged mine in....It's working. Why should put the disk in. Isn't it just for recovery?

It gives you some options like having 5 profiles, a decent looking interface, mapping the mouse buttons, sensitivity, scroll speed, double click speed, etc. You can also change the DPI between the 4 options but you can do that with the button on the mouse too.

What settings are you guys using for gaming?

Also, apparently this laptop comes with a basic Razer mouse. But some if not all of the A-1s come with, what I found with some google-fu, a HP voodoo mouse.

This one. Without the CF look.

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Gaming-Mouse-with-VooDooDNA/dp/B001HLF2KO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270355909&sr=8-1

Picture here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=461828&page=167

silkbomber

04-05-2010, 04:18 AM

UntilMoraleImproves

04-05-2010, 06:08 AM

I see on the asus website that the top of the line G73JH should come in a top of the line verison with i7-820qm. Does anyone know when this version is likely to be out? I would assume if Asus bring out a version with a 820qm in it would be cheaper then having xotic upgrade the 720qm, which would require them to replace the 720qm already in the unit.

The specs on ASUS' site isn't necessarily indicative of the models that wil be released in the US. There are many, many different versions of the G73, some built for specific retailers, so finding one that comes with the 820 may not be as easy as you think.

Nemax

04-05-2010, 08:01 AM

In Norway there is only one G73 available and its called G73JH TZ054Z and comes only with i7 - 820qm cpu.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-05-2010, 08:12 AM

In Norway there is only one G73 available and its called G73JH TZ054Z and comes only with i7 - 820qm cpu.

Yeah but it is double the price of an A2! Plus it only has 6GB of RAM and 1 500GB HDD.

silkbomber

04-05-2010, 09:30 AM

So what about the i5 and i3 versions? I find it weird how Asus has put these different versions under specs, yet most of them you can't get.

Fingersniffer

04-05-2010, 11:33 AM

So what about the i5 and i3 versions? I find it weird how Asus has put these different versions under specs, yet most of them you can't get.

I think its mainly about marketing, certain hardware and prices do best in certain market areas. People that are smart look worldwide for the exact product that want, rather than just shopping in their local area.

striker1010

04-05-2010, 03:24 PM

I think its mainly about marketing, certain hardware and prices do best in certain market areas. People that are smart look worldwide for the exact product that want, rather than just shopping in their local area.

I think another thing to keep in mind is that if you are buying from Europe for example and you buy a laptop from say a US market or even like Japanese market you gotta make sure that the voltage/current that the laptop carries is compatible with UR REGION. I know a lot of electronics that work in the USA don't work in Japan or Europe unless they are made compatible for both regions or w/e.

Correct me if I am wrong.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-05-2010, 03:29 PM

I think another thing to keep in mind is that if you are buying from Europe for example and you buy a laptop from say a US market or even like Japanese market you gotta make sure that the voltage/current that the laptop carries is compatible with UR REGION. I know a lot of electronics that work in the USA don't work in Japan or Europe unless they are made compatible for both regions or w/e.

Correct me if I am wrong.

It should be fine. What you need is to make sure your power brick is for the right country. In the US, our power comes in to the house using AC but the machine needs DC so the power brick converts it and doles out the proper amount of power. I'm no electrical engineer but I think that is right.

Fingersniffer

04-05-2010, 03:42 PM

It should be fine. What you need is to make sure your power brick is for the right country. In the US, our power comes in to the house using AC but the machine needs DC so the power brick converts it and doles out the proper amount of power. I'm no electrical engineer but I think that is right.

You are pretty much correct, the power that the laptop sees is the same, what matters is that you have the proper power supply/connections for whatever country your in.

retron09

04-05-2010, 04:54 PM

You are pretty much correct, the power that the laptop sees is the same, what matters is that you have the proper power supply/connections for whatever country your in.

You guys are all pretty much right. 99.96% of all notebook computers come with a power adapter that will work worldwide, you just need an adapter to make the power brick fit the outlet of the country you are in. The power supply automatically converts the AC voltage into DC voltage. However, no matter what country you are in, it is always a good idea to use a surge protector.

silkbomber

04-05-2010, 08:31 PM

You guys are all pretty much right. 99.96% of all notebook computers come with a power adapter that will work worldwide, you just need an adapter to make the power brick fit the outlet of the country you are in. The power supply automatically converts the AC voltage into DC voltage. However, no matter what country you are in, it is always a good idea to use a surge protector.

Yep, if you have a look on the the back of the power brick, it will usually say input - 100-240V. So you only need to change the cable which goes into the wall plug and into the power brick. The reason I'm asking these questions, because I can't quite afford the upgrade to SSD, but if it comes with an i5, the small decrease in price, might lower it enough to be able to get one.

Fingersniffer

04-05-2010, 09:28 PM

Yep, if you have a look on the the back of the power brick, it will usually say input - 100-240V. So you only need to change the cable which goes into the wall plug and into the power brick. The reason I'm asking these questions, because I can't quite afford the upgrade to SSD, but if it comes with an i5, the small decrease in price, might lower it enough to be able to get one.
I'd go with an i7 over an SSD anyday

retron09

04-05-2010, 11:27 PM

I'd go with an i7 over an SSD anyday

And twice on Sunday!:wink2:

UntilMoraleImproves

04-06-2010, 05:44 AM

I'd go with an i7 over an SSD anyday

Agreed
/10char

SuperTony

04-08-2010, 10:12 AM

I was told by someone to swap one of the HDD drives with a small SSD drive..it would actually make that big of a difference for mid level power user? Or will I be happy with my dual 500gb drives?

Fingersniffer

04-08-2010, 10:31 AM

I was told by someone to swap one of the HDD drives with a small SSD drive..it would actually make that big of a difference for mid level power user? Or will I be happy with my dual 500gb drives?

It really depends, if your mainly surfing the internet and running an occasional application, then no an SSD probably wouldn't do much for you. But if you are a gamer, run applications that are pulling information from or writing to the HD a lot then yes you will see a difference.

An average 7200 RPM HD takes 40-90 seconds to boot up, my SSD boots me up in 18 seconds from power on to desktop ready to rock.

It really depends on what you want to use it for, but in almost ANY situation you can notice the difference in speed from a mechanical drive to an SSD.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-08-2010, 10:44 AM

I was told by someone to swap one of the HDD drives with a small SSD drive..it would actually make that big of a difference for mid level power user? Or will I be happy with my dual 500gb drives?

I agree 100% with Finger but let me tell you, if you have the resources to get a good SSD, DO IT! You wouldn't believe what a difference it makes in responsiveness and speed. I'm still blown away that I can have a completely useable computer in less than 20 seconds! After years of starting a computer and then walking away for 5 minutes while it booted, this is like a dream come true.

Kunari

04-08-2010, 11:04 AM

... I'm still blown away that I can have a completely useable computer in less than 20 seconds! After years of starting a computer and then walking away for 5 minutes while it booted, this is like a dream come true.

Can you imagine how hard it be to go back to a circa 1999 computer now? :laugh:

I'll get a SSD late this year or early next after the prices do another drop (hopefully).

singleshot71

04-08-2010, 11:17 AM

Can you imagine how hard it be to go back to a circa 1999 computer now? :laugh:

I'll get a SSD late this year or early next after the prices do another drop (hopefully).
Pretty soon, SSD's will be the norm, and we will look back and laugh about how slow 7200/I7's were!!!

Jeffccw

04-09-2010, 01:32 AM

I order the g73jh a1 and ship to HK, the shipping cost is terrible, it cost me USD289

silkbomber

04-09-2010, 04:50 AM

I order the g73jh a1 and ship to HK, the shipping cost is terrible, it cost me USD289

Is that the estimate or the actual quote then send out when it's very for shipping? It may come down a bit once the actual units are in and they can get it quoted properly. But yes, it's a very steep price, I am in the same boat, was expecting maybe $150 to china, but now it's looking nearly $300. OUCH!

Jeffccw

04-09-2010, 05:57 AM

Is that the estimate or the actual quote then send out when it's very for shipping? It may come down a bit once the actual units are in and they can get it quoted properly. But yes, it's a very steep price, I am in the same boat, was expecting maybe $150 to china, but now it's looking nearly $300. OUCH!
I think it is not a estimate price, because XOTICPC replied my mail, and said that The 159 option chosen on the website was an estimate of the charges. Once the shipping option was quoted from the shipper the correct estimate is 289.00. To ship this to your location this is what it will cost.
289 is so terrible!!!!WTF!!!!!

Aragog

04-09-2010, 10:57 AM

I think it is not a estimate price, because XOTICPC replied my mail, and said that The 159 option chosen on the website was an estimate of the charges. Once the shipping option was quoted from the shipper the correct estimate is 289.00. To ship this to your location this is what it will cost.
289 is so terrible!!!!WTF!!!!!

Mine to Spain will cost 219$. I find relief knowing that my final price will be 1200 or 1500€ depending on whether it is stopped entering the EU or not, and the official price here will be 1999€ (what I consider quite absurd...)

Cray

04-09-2010, 12:33 PM

It really depends, if your mainly surfing the internet and running an occasional application, then no an SSD probably wouldn't do much for you. But if you are a gamer, run applications that are pulling information from or writing to the HD a lot then yes you will see a difference.

An average 7200 RPM HD takes 40-90 seconds to boot up, my SSD boots me up in 18 seconds from power on to desktop ready to rock.

It really depends on what you want to use it for, but in almost ANY situation you can notice the difference in speed from a mechanical drive to an SSD.

So do you install games on your SSD to improve performance? What are you putting on your secondary HDD?

UntilMoraleImproves

04-09-2010, 01:32 PM

I installed my OS and new games on the SSD. My HDD currently houses my music, pictures, movies, the paging file and my temp internet files.

Cray

04-09-2010, 04:37 PM

I installed my OS and new games on the SSD. My HDD currently houses my music, pictures, movies, the paging file and my temp internet files.You lost me with paging file. How do you set up temporay internet files to be on secondary drive?

Fr0st

04-09-2010, 06:16 PM

You lost me with paging file. How do you set up temporay internet files to be on secondary drive?

You can move the page file in windows. Google how to do it, it is super super simple. Same with temp files. Note he moved the pagefile/temp files to reduce writes on the SSD (marginally extend drive life), not to improve performance.

So guys, do you think an 80gb SSD will be enough? I'm sorta starting to worry that I might feel bottlenecked space-wise with my programs, especially with games (specifically MMO's) getting bigger and bigger.

exchange.program.member

04-09-2010, 06:39 PM

order cancelled (29/03/10)
enjoy :rolleyes:
btw ... the problem of choosing a gaming keyboard is more related to the topic of gaming laptop than a lot of stuff that was posted here.
anyhow, I made my choice already.
good luck, guys.

Fr0st

04-09-2010, 06:40 PM

romerom

04-09-2010, 06:40 PM

that was quick! :)

UntilMoraleImproves

04-09-2010, 06:41 PM

You can move the page file in windows. Google how to do it, it is super super simple. Same with temp files. Note he moved the pagefile/temp files to reduce writes on the SSD (marginally extend drive life), not to improve performance.

So guys, do you think an 80gb SSD will be enough? I'm sorta starting to worry that I might feel bottlenecked space-wise with my programs, especially with games (specifically MMO's) getting bigger and bigger.

It can get tight. I'm 1/2 full but don't have anything else to install. Bigger just costs too much for me right now. When the $ drops more, maybe I'll get a bigger one.

Jasgent

04-09-2010, 07:15 PM

It can get tight. I'm 1/2 full but don't have anything else to install. Bigger just costs too much for me right now. When the $ drops more, maybe I'll get a bigger one.

You know I was very interested in these SSD drives but after a bunch of research I think they may not be worth it. Yes they are faster but how reliable will they be 2 years from now. My guess is that in 2 years I will buy one after they get the technology higher and the price lower. If I really thought I would be massively improving my laptop, I would drop the cash in a second and get one, but I just dont think that is the case. I think I will wait until they get less expensive and/or more reliable

Fingersniffer

04-09-2010, 11:07 PM

You know I was very interested in these SSD drives but after a bunch of research I think they may not be worth it. Yes they are faster but how reliable will they be 2 years from now. My guess is that in 2 years I will buy one after they get the technology higher and the price lower. If I really thought I would be massively improving my laptop, I would drop the cash in a second and get one, but I just dont think that is the case. I think I will wait until they get less expensive and/or more reliable

In 2 years it will be the same tech that is in today's SSD's, and it does massively increase your performance. I mean look at the starup times alone, one of the heaviest times on your computer is during startup and those of us with an SSD boot up in 1/2 (or more) the time than a traditional mechanical drive.

choyj

04-10-2010, 04:33 AM

It really depends, if your mainly surfing the internet and running an occasional application, then no an SSD probably wouldn't do much for you. But if you are a gamer, run applications that are pulling information from or writing to the HD a lot then yes you will see a difference.

Uhhh.. yes, it will. If you are browsing the web, SSD will make a difference over HDD in the long run. Read my response to fingersniffer here (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?p=29729#post29729) on why browsing is made faster using an SSD. If you are writing and reading to the HD a lot (especially the reading part), you will see a difference.

choyj

04-10-2010, 04:43 AM

So do you install games on your SSD to improve performance?

heck yeah! I mentioned some time ago somewhere here where one game I was playing would provide some tips or info on the screen while loading the next level. With the SSD, I found that there was not enough time to read the whole tip/comment. It's that fast. Although, it varies. For example, Dragon Age Origins had this horrible bug where level loading took an extremely long amount of time the more you played.

What are you putting on your secondary HDD?

Porn, of course. :laugh:

choyj

04-10-2010, 05:00 AM

In 2 years it will be the same tech that is in today's SSD's, and it does massively increase your performance. I mean look at the starup times alone, one of the heaviest times on your computer is during startup and those of us with an SSD boot up in 1/2 (or more) the time than a traditional mechanical drive.

Today's SSDs are currently near saturating the max bandwidth that SATA 2.0 can provide (i.e. 286MB/s). SATA 3.0 is just barely getting out the door and will double the max bandwidth available providing more headroom for SSDs to stretch its legs.

You know I was very interested in these SSD drives but after a bunch of research I think they may not be worth it. Yes they are faster but how reliable will they be 2 years from now. My guess is that in 2 years I will buy one after they get the technology higher and the price lower. If I really thought I would be massively improving my laptop, I would drop the cash in a second and get one, but I just dont think that is the case. I think I will wait until they get less expensive and/or more reliable

But it does massively improve your laptop (if your laptop is a high performer)! The reasons I can think of not buying it are: cost, capacity, and unknown life. But the biggest reasons some of us are buying it is for the experience: it is extremely fast. For many people, it makes the laptop feel like it's a brand new laptop. And, of course, some G73 owners want to see their brand new machine run at it's fastest performance available. :smile2: We don't want it slowed down by a mere mechanical hard drive. :laugh:

Cray

04-10-2010, 10:01 PM

How about heat, do HDDs put out significantly more heat than SSDs? How about battery life? I would think SSDs use less power. I wonder just how much of a difference.

I agree with Choyj in that cost, capacity, and the lifespan are the major factors. In the case of G73JH-A1, it's hard to pass up a sweet deal of 1TB, which are 7200RPMs and 16MB Cache Buffer instead of the usual 5400RPMs. So these HDDs are not slouches. Of course if we are going talk speed, even the cheapest and slowest SSD is faster. I guess my point here is there's a lot factors to take in here.

I really want a SSD but I have a 230GB drive full, and 75% of it is games. Right now capacity vs cost is my concern, I just hate to sacrifice performance, but the upgrade cost of $699 for 256GB Crucial C300 SSD is way too high. I wouldn't want anything less capacity than that. So I think I'm gonna wait it out for the prices to drop. I think it's going to be quite few years before SSDs become a reasonably priced upgrade.

Fingersniffer

04-11-2010, 12:17 AM

How about heat, do HDDs put out significantly more heat than SSDs? How about battery life? I would think SSDs use less power. I wonder just how much of a difference.

SSD's use a fraction of the power and generate a fraction of the heat that a traditional mechanical HD does.

As for games, well I have more games than I care to mention, but I divide them up to my two hard drives. Games that are online multiplayer (map loading etc) or that use the HD a lot I put on the SSD, single player games, games I don't play very often, games that do not work from the HD much I put on the 7200RPM.

In my experience people that have more then 50-70g in games generally only play a small portion of what they have installed, so if you have 200g+ in games, its pretty unlikely that you play all of them with any frequency, chances are you probably only play 3-5 of them. Prioritize your drive usage, I'm a FIRM believer that if I don't use something at least once a week I uninstall it as its just extra clutter on my drive and makes the drive work harder, there are a few applications that are exceptions but overall if I don't use it I dump it.

Cray

04-11-2010, 04:59 AM

SSD's use a fraction of the power and generate a fraction of the heat that a traditional mechanical HD does.

As for games, well I have more games than I care to mention, but I divide them up to my two hard drives. Games that are online multiplayer (map loading etc) or that use the HD a lot I put on the SSD, single player games, games I don't play very often, games that do not work from the HD much I put on the 7200RPM.

In my experience people that have more then 50-70g in games generally only play a small portion of what they have installed, so if you have 200g+ in games, its pretty unlikely that you play all of them with any frequency, chances are you probably only play 3-5 of them. Prioritize your drive usage, I'm a FIRM believer that if I don't use something at least once a week I uninstall it as its just extra clutter on my drive and makes the drive work harder, there are a few applications that are exceptions but overall if I don't use it I dump it.

I don't like to uninstall and reinstall games because they usually take forever to install. That just makes you want to play a different game. The other thing is I fear reinstalling games damages the HDD's lifespan. Too many large rewrites, and I think that would be more damaging to SSDs.

I really want a SSD as a primary, but the cost vs capacity ratio isn't justifiable for me. I will wait when the ratio is $1.15 per gigabyte. That's $287.50 for 250GB SSD. I think it's going to be a long wait. :(

Fingersniffer

04-11-2010, 11:17 AM

I don't like to uninstall and reinstall games because they usually take forever to install. That just makes you want to play a different game. The other thing is I fear reinstalling games damages the HDD's lifespan. Too many large rewrites, and I think that would be more damaging to SSDs.

I really want a SSD as a primary, but the cost vs capacity ratio isn't justifiable for me. I will wait when the ratio is $1.15 per gigabyte. That's $287.50 for 250GB SSD. I think it's going to be a long wait. :(

A very long wait, and again I have to say that SSD drives OUTLAST traditional mechanical drives, so this "worry" you have is unfounded and/or fueled by uneducated rumors on the subject.

powerpack

04-11-2010, 11:43 AM

Jasgent

04-11-2010, 12:21 PM

On large installs on HDD shortening drive life? I am not getting it. Platter always spinning so no extra stress. On the actuator arm. I see less arm movement than scattered small reads so I say large install less overall stress.

On SSD and large installs of game and wearing out. Didn't we have Intel saying on 60GB SSD 100GB+ writes everyday for 5+ years? If so there is no way you can achieve much wear uninstalling and installing games.

I do not see most people keeping this as main notebook for 5 years. It is cutting edge right now. I bet the great majority will get similar cutting edge in 2 to 3 years. We are creatures of habit I don't see 5 years as being acceptable.

And back on SSD limited writes and worrying about it. If I said I doubt you will live to be 100 years old you would not worry about it. So why worry about the SSD it will last longer than you will need it.

I guess for some reason you did not want to read the link I posted, or for some reason it did not work for you, it worked fine for me.

THe problem is they are breaking due to a firmware problem, it is not that they are wearing out it is that they are defective and dying within 2 months or even less than that. Or they are having massive problems and only the first 20% of the drive is working as intended and the other 80% is down to like 20mbs transfer vs what is should be in 100 or 220 mbs +. THis is a pretty widespread problem industry wide as far as I have read and researched and I have added links to verify that.

So yes you are right if you drive operates as intended past the first few months you are golden(hopefully) but if it does not you have a several hundred dollar paperweight on your hands not to mention loss of data and time.

I suggest you check the link I linked again, as you are a pretty big defender of SSD, yet almost kind of refuse to acknowledge the possibility of complete failure of the drive in the first several weeks of use, which is pretty common at this time.

Hopefully they fix this problem, but as of 2 weeks ago the problem still existed specifically with Crucials SSD's.

If intel had a 256 gig drive for under $700 bucks I woudl buy it today, is there one out there that I do know about?

By the PP I gave you rep...you help me learn :)

Bling

04-11-2010, 01:00 PM

Jasgent

04-11-2010, 01:04 PM

i plan to use this for the next 5 yrs actually my pc built is amd athlon 1.4ghz i built 7 yrs ago

i dont care about pc gamig much but since i have not bought a pc in 7 yrs and this is my first laptop i wanted the best

i am hoping the laptop doesnt fail before 5 yrs

never had laptop and dont know how reliable they are vs desktop (reliable so far even at 7 yrs already)

read asus was best in reliability so got asus

You sure did go all out on buying the G73 if you dont plan on gaming, I am sure you probably could have spent a considerable amount less since you arent a gamer with another laptop without the vidoe card

Bling

04-11-2010, 01:29 PM

ill game on pc but not so much thats what 360 is for i wnat a laptop that will be good for other things for a long time as well not some garbage best buy pc for 600

powerpack

04-11-2010, 01:37 PM

I have a 10 year old DeLL and 4 year old Gateway I have never had a notebook die on me. My current Asus is going strong. I am getting G73 because I want not need.

There are other options including Asus if you are not a gamer. And regardless of what you get it will fly compared to your current.

Fingersniffer

04-11-2010, 01:39 PM

THe problem is they are breaking due to a firmware problem, it is not that they are wearing out it is that they are defective and dying within 2 months or even less than that. Or they are having massive problems and only the first 20% of the drive is working as intended and the other 80% is down to like 20mbs transfer vs what is should be in 100 or 220 mbs +.

The only problem you have with your reasons for not buying an SSD is that the firmware issues have been resolved for 6 months and all newer drives have the new firmware and TRIM support (at least for the major SSD MFG's)

So, the problem is that your reading OLD information and haven't looked into the new information, and really the point is null anyway because it would still be under warranty and you just RMA and get a new drive anyway.

powerpack

04-11-2010, 01:55 PM

Jas was reading current on the C300 I think like 3/25/10. But still just do not buy that model.

Fingersniffer

04-11-2010, 01:56 PM

Jas was reading current on the C300 I think like 3/25/10. But still just do not buy that model.

Yes, stick with the Intel or OCZ brands of SSD's for now until other brands get controllers that work better.

Bling

04-11-2010, 01:57 PM

nah i want also i want to play crysis for the first time and have my first blu ray

powerpack

04-11-2010, 02:03 PM

Crysis yea you bought the right machine.

retron09

04-12-2010, 01:58 AM

nah i want also i want to play crysis for the first time and have my first blu ray

Crysis is BEAUTIFUL on the G73.:biggrin::wink2::biggrin:

Fr0st

04-12-2010, 01:46 PM

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Bad Company 2 maxed out looks nicer than Crysis maxed out (runs much better, too).

Yes, stick with the Intel or OCZ brands of SSD's for now until other brands get controllers that work better.

I'd add corsair to that list as well.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-12-2010, 01:54 PM

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Bad Company 2 maxed out looks nicer than Crysis maxed out (runs much better, too).

You aren't crazy. IMO, it is nicer. I love the look and the game play of BC2. Even maxed out I'm still getting decent frame rates. The game is more than playable. I think I've finally dialed my max settings in to a place where I can keep extremely high detail and maintain such a good frame rate that my eye doesn't see anything wrong with the picture.

Fr0st

04-12-2010, 02:11 PM

UntilMoraleImproves

04-12-2010, 02:16 PM

UMI you probably know this already, but if you want to monitor your FPS in real-time, download a program called FRAPS. It displays your real-time FPS in the top corner of the screen while you game. It can also record videos, take screenshots and serve as a benchmarking tool, although some of these otptions are limited in the free version.

Yep, I've been using it on occasion. To me, 24fps or better looks good. I know a lot of people bitch under 30 but I really just can't distinguish it. I know when it is really rocking high there's a noticeable difference but at 24, I'm a happy guy.

Fr0st

04-12-2010, 02:30 PM

Yep, I've been using it on occasion. To me, 24fps or better looks good. I know a lot of people bitch under 30 but I really just can't distinguish it. I know when it is really rocking high there's a noticeable difference but at 24, I'm a happy guy.

I'm the same way. Anything 24 or higher is great. After all, movies run at 24 fps so why not games :P

I just like to get a steady average of 50-60 if at all possible, because that way I know that no matter WHAT happens on screen, I won't drop below a playable framerate. But that is really just my standard for my gaming desktop which is considerably more expensive and powerful than gaming laptops. I'd be ecstatic to get atleast 24 fps on my G73 on all the games I play :D

UntilMoraleImproves

04-12-2010, 03:44 PM

I'm the same way. Anything 24 or higher is great. After all, movies run at 24 fps so why not games :P

I just like to get a steady average of 50-60 if at all possible, because that way I know that no matter WHAT happens on screen, I won't drop below a playable framerate. But that is really just my standard for my gaming desktop which is considerably more expensive and powerful than gaming laptops. I'd be ecstatic to get atleast 24 fps on my G73 on all the games I play :D

Agreed! I have no interest in AvP but I might pick it up just to have a DX11 game in the house. I'll have to check out the reviews to see if it is worth it.

jamiemacca

04-13-2010, 07:32 PM

Hehe the first thing I bought for my G73 was Bad Company 2.. It really is awsome graphics. Glad your all enjoying! Just wish I had a bit more time to play!!

powerpack

04-13-2010, 08:24 PM

Alright you happy little gamers. One question. Have you guys played at lower than native resolution to max out the eye candy and get higher frame rates? If so how does it look?

On your guys talk of frame rates you are correct about what speed might trick the brain to fluid motion with say movies but consider how games involve input also. Greater segmentation (if that is even a correct concept or word here) leads to faster perception of response. And that my friends is real. But yes I tend to agree with you all for what amount does offer a very enjoyable experience. But the hardcore guys well they are hardcore and more is better for them.

Bling

04-14-2010, 05:03 PM

bc2 most look awesome maxed out on a pc but since i have it on 360 ill never know i wont buy two versions of same game

cant wait till end of may to get my system .. will buy crysis finally and see what eveyrone talking about

for most part ill stick to my 360 for gaming.. cept for crysis and crysis 2 since i have a tons of friends on live .. i cant see myself playing the next cod on a pc vs 360 even if gfx are better

SuperTony

04-14-2010, 05:43 PM

UntilMoraleImproves

04-16-2010, 08:44 AM

Fingersniffer

04-16-2010, 08:56 AM

Just wanted to pop in and say that I got my Thermaltake cooler and it makes a huge difference in temps when I'm maxing out BC2. I feel much more comfortable now. I know max settings aren't the best idea but the game looks so freakin' good that I can't help myself.

Whats the temps your getting while gaming, mine don't get very hot at all and I run BC2 maxed out on the G73 and on my desktop.

UntilMoraleImproves

04-16-2010, 09:27 AM

Whats the temps your getting while gaming, mine don't get very hot at all and I run BC2 maxed out on the G73 and on my desktop.

I haven't been running thermal monitoring while playing but I noticed that the air coming out of the rear left vent (the GPU) was awfully hot when maxing it out so I finally ordered the cooler. Once I hooked it up, there was a remarkable difference. I'll have to run some temps and post them but there definitely was a difference.

jamiemacca

04-16-2010, 04:12 PM

I'd like to see some temps. I can't imagine it would make hardly any difference at all on the 720. Maybe for the 820 and 920 extreme! I can't say i noticed gpu left side getting too hot either when gaming (BF2 yeah maxed)

I've been rendering out images for a couple of days at a time with my 720 and not felt the need to even bother checking the temps as its obviously running pretty cool, but its worth a check as this could be an interesting experiment. We all know exsesive heat is not a good thing!

You gotta love the cool vents on this thing... what a design!

UntilMoraleImproves

04-16-2010, 09:27 PM

ryukenden

04-16-2010, 09:42 PM

Quick question. Is the g73 base just regular plastic or rubberized? Because i'm worried about the construction. I mean... plastics???

UntilMoraleImproves

04-16-2010, 10:17 PM

Regular plastic, just like every other laptop I own. What do you expect it to be made out of? LOL

ryukenden

04-16-2010, 10:29 PM

aluminium or rubberized material.

TRiPgod

04-17-2010, 07:27 AM

Regular plastic, just like every other laptop I own. What do you expect it to be made out of? LOL

Carbon fiber !!
Like this year's models of Sony Vaio Z series.

Fr0st

04-17-2010, 02:12 PM

I haven't been running thermal monitoring while playing but I noticed that the air coming out of the rear left vent (the GPU) was awfully hot when maxing it out so I finally ordered the cooler. Once I hooked it up, there was a remarkable difference. I'll have to run some temps and post them but there definitely was a difference.

Hey UMI, mind linking me to the cooler you purchased? I'm sure you said somewhere here which one, but I sadly don't have the time to search for it.

I've been looking for a good cooler, figure it'd be a good investment :)

jbermi

04-17-2010, 04:05 PM

Hey UMI, mind linking me to the cooler you purchased? I'm sure you said somewhere here which one, but I sadly don't have the time to search for it.

I've been looking for a good cooler, figure it'd be a good investment :)

i think this is the one he got...
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1135&ID=1882

this is the one i got, that xotic has an option.
http://www.byteccusa.com/product/cooler/NC-820/NC-820.htm

UntilMoraleImproves

04-17-2010, 08:57 PM

i think this is the one he got...
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1135&ID=1882

this is the one i got, that xotic has an option.
http://www.byteccusa.com/product/cooler/NC-820/NC-820.htm

Yep, I got the Thermaltake CLN0009. I love it. Great cooler. Also makes gaming even more comfortable IMO.

drremi

04-18-2010, 02:09 AM

Yep, I got the Thermaltake CLN0009. I love it. Great cooler. Also makes gaming even more comfortable IMO.

Do you find the CLN0009 makes the laptop taller? It looks like it would be raised a bit.

choyj

04-18-2010, 04:10 AM

Whats the temps your getting while gaming, mine don't get very hot at all and I run BC2 maxed out on the G73 and on my desktop.

What do you use to measure temps? I was thinking of using GPU-Z v0.4.2, but it appears the 5870 is too new for it to recognize it?

Fingersniffer

04-18-2010, 12:30 PM

What do you use to measure temps? I was thinking of using GPU-Z v0.4.2, but it appears the 5870 is too new for it to recognize it?

I too had a hard time finding an application that would see the 5870, I currently am using Everest Ultimate to montior my system temps, but it is a pay application. AMD GPU Clock Tool also has temp monitoring.

powerpack

04-18-2010, 12:44 PM

GPU-Z and AMD GPU do not work for me for temps. I don't have G73 but HWMonitor does work for me and free. So give it a shot?

Maverick494

04-18-2010, 03:37 PM

GPU-Z and AMD GPU do not work for me for temps. I don't have G73 but HWMonitor does work for me and free. So give it a shot?

Also MSI Afterburner appears to work for temps too.

retron09

04-18-2010, 04:17 PM

Yep, I got the Thermaltake CLN0009. I love it. Great cooler. Also makes gaming even more comfortable IMO.

How loud is the fan on this thing? With the fan being that big, does it make alot of noise?

Slowboto

04-18-2010, 04:33 PM

How loud is the fan on this thing? With the fan being that big, does it make alot of noise?

Reviews I have seen have said it is extremely quiet which is important to me.

Trying to decide between that one and the following:
http://www.amazon.com/ACC-NT-CRYO-LX-Aluminum-Notebook-Adjustable/dp/B0014GVZS0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1271626231&sr=8-2

Saw it mentioned in another thread. I like that it has more usb connections. Still I'm trying to decide if I would actually need those extra connections. The one UMI has is $40 cheaper and gets the job done.

jbermi

04-18-2010, 04:41 PM

Reviews I have seen have said it is extremely quiet which is important to me.

Trying to decide between that one and the following:
http://www.amazon.com/ACC-NT-CRYO-LX-Aluminum-Notebook-Adjustable/dp/B0014GVZS0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1271626231&sr=8-2

Saw it mentioned in another thread. I like that it has more usb connections. Still I'm trying to decide if I would actually need those extra connections. The one UMI has is $40 cheaper and gets the job done.

I didnt think I would need all my USB ports, or i could get by with a portable 4 port hub, but I ended getting a powered 7 port hub. and now only have usb port used on the laptop. and a full 7 port hub, nice thing about the powered hub, i can charge my Moment and ZuneHD without turning on the laptop.

Slowboto

04-18-2010, 04:50 PM

I didnt think I would need all my USB ports, or i could get by with a portable 4 port hub, but I ended getting a powered 7 port hub. and now only have usb port used on the laptop. and a full 7 port hub, nice thing about the powered hub, i can charge my Moment and ZuneHD without turning on the laptop.

Which 7 port hub did you get?

Fingersniffer

04-18-2010, 06:24 PM

GPU-Z and AMD GPU do not work for me for temps. I don't have G73 but HWMonitor does work for me and free. So give it a shot?

Ahh yes HWMonitor does work well too, and I did find a version of the AMD GPU Clock Tool that did work, but I had to look around many Google links to find it. I already deleted them off my HD in favor of Everest Ultimate (Newest version) as it has a sidebar widget that lets me easily watch my temps.

I would also like to say that Everest Ultimate is a worthwhile investment for system monitoring, voltages, temps, fan speeds etc and even logging, I'm not usually one to suggest a pay app when so many free versions are available but it really is the best I've used.

choyj

04-18-2010, 11:56 PM

I too had a hard time finding an application that would see the 5870, I currently am using Everest Ultimate to montior my system temps, but it is a pay application. AMD GPU Clock Tool also has temp monitoring.

I went to the Everest website. Does it allow you to monitor and output the temperatures to a text file or create graphs? It looks like all it does is give you a temperature reading and an average.

I found the latest beta of HWINFO32 let's you graph the temperatures.
And AMD GPU Clock tool let's you output the results to a text file every second. And if you massage the text, you can pull it up on an Excel spreadsheet and draw some nice graphs that way.

Lemme see if I can play some BC2 and make some GPU graphs. If I find you online, prepare to get your butt kicked... or perhaps the other way around. :eek:

Fingersniffer

04-19-2010, 12:11 AM

I went to the Everest website. Does it allow you to monitor and output the temperatures to a text file or create graphs? It looks like all it does is give you a temperature reading and an average.

I found the latest beta of HWINFO32 let's you graph the temperatures.
And AMD GPU Clock tool let's you output the results to a text file every second. And if you massage the text, you can pull it up on an Excel spreadsheet and draw some nice graphs that way.

Lemme see if I can play some BC2 and make some GPU graphs. If I find you online, prepare to get your butt kicked... or perhaps the other way around. :eek:

Yes you can create HTML log files with Everest that are very detailed and easy to read., haven't see any graphs, but I might not have it setup to make them, but seeing as it is an HTML file it would be possible.

And add me on BC2, my username is Fingersniffer we'll blow something up.

choyj

04-19-2010, 01:57 AM

Yes you can create HTML log files with Everest that are very detailed and easy to read., haven't see any graphs, but I might not have it setup to make them, but seeing as it is an HTML file it would be possible.

And add me on BC2, my username is Fingersniffer we'll blow something up.

You're too good for me. Your scores are pretty good while my K/D ratio runs below 1 most of the time.

I've been trying to record some values while playing BC2, but either I accidentally kill the AMD GPU Clock tool while playing, or I forget to turn on saving to a log file... Grrr.. Graphs next time!

I maxed at 80C on the 5870 memory while playing. However, even playing a few sessions, the system is still really quiet. I'm impressed. :D

P.S. How do you shoot with the sniper? I keep shooting, but I always miss. I try to aim at the top of the head, but still no go. sniper sux

Fingersniffer

04-19-2010, 02:07 AM

P.S. How do you shoot with the sniper? I keep shooting, but I always miss. I try to aim at the top of the head, but still no go. sniper sux

My K/D ratio is subjective to the kit I'm using at the time, I'm better with some than others. As for the sniper rife they are have a unique handling depending on the rifle used. But with the good ones (M24, GOL, M95, dont waste time with anything else) you can aim above their head depending on their distance from you.

Example: If someone is say 200+ meters away you want to aim about 1cm (on my screen anyway) above their head and pull the trigger for a headshot, if they are 100m or less then usually aiming right at the head will drop em.

You are adjusting for "Bullet Drop" as referred to in the BF series, bullets and almost all projectiles in the game will start to drop at a certain distance so you need to aim a bit (not a lot) higher for that "BOOM! HEADSHOT!"

If you have a vent or TS PM me the info and I'd be happy to log in and give some pointers.

Usually I play on my desktop, but I have played BC2 maxed on the G73 and I don't hear anything really from the laptop, I think the sound of the air moving out of the back makes more noise than the fans do.

PS, your Shayha in game right?

choyj

04-19-2010, 03:04 AM

My K/D ratio is subjective to the kit I'm using at the time, I'm better with some than others. As for the sniper rife they are have a unique handling depending on the rifle used. But with the good ones (M24, GOL, M95, dont waste time with anything else) you can aim above their head depending on their distance from you.

Example: If someone is say 200+ meters away you want to aim about 1cm (on my screen anyway) above their head and pull the trigger for a headshot, if they are 100m or less then usually aiming right at the head will drop em.

You are adjusting for "Bullet Drop" as referred to in the BF series, bullets and almost all projectiles in the game will start to drop at a certain distance so you need to aim a bit (not a lot) higher for that "BOOM! HEADSHOT!"

If you have a vent or TS PM me the info and I'd be happy to log in and give some pointers.

Usually I play on my desktop, but I have played BC2 maxed on the G73 and I don't hear anything really from the laptop, I think the sound of the air moving out of the back makes more noise than the fans do.

PS, your Shayha in game right?

yup... that's me.
It stands for Simo Hayha. You can read about him here (http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4).
They call him the White Death and no one has his kind of K/D ratio. :eek: