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Solannis
03-31-2010, 12:59 PM
Are there any updated estimates on the arrival times for the MSI GX640 laptop?

Fingersniffer
03-31-2010, 01:35 PM
Xotic does not disclose that information on the forums as generally they do not know until the MFG or distributors let them know. And from what I've heard MSI is almost as elusive about their products and shipping as ASUS is/was

Justin_W@XoticPC
03-31-2010, 02:17 PM
The ETA keeps moving around and nothings been guaranteed by MSI yet. We've heard that it could be released anytime from the 2nd week of April, all the way until the end of May. So the ETA"s up in the air right now until MSI actually releases it. :(

kingtz
03-31-2010, 08:40 PM
I wonder how back-ordered this model's going to be now that they confirmed it has GDDR5.

powerpack
03-31-2010, 08:49 PM
Long time Kingtz!

Tree_Burner
04-01-2010, 12:28 AM
Joseph Lee Confirmed to me via email that Xotic will be able to ship this weekend.

here's a copy of the convo:


Hello Joseph,
on another online resellers website, they said the msi gx640 is in stock at the manufacturers and will ship at the end of the week. is this true for you guys? if so, is the gx740 due at the same Time? thanks for all your help.

Response:
Nathan,

I just double checked with my production manager and he said that it is true about the Gx640, however not the 740. He still has no ETA on that.


EDIT: oh, you guys see the gx740 barebones now for sale? it's the 1727, but it now has ATI radeon HD 5870 GDDR5 GPU. WOOT!

Solannis
04-03-2010, 12:40 AM
I noticed they took off the "Pre-order" and "Mid to Late March" wording off the page. I talked with Justin W. on the phone on Thursday and he indicated that MSI would be getting them this weekend, therefore it should not be too long before they show up at Xotic.

Very much looking forward to this one. It seems to be the good compromise between a full-on desktop replacement gaming system and a smaller, more lightweight and sleek work-only notebook. Not too big, not too heavy, not under-powered or over-powered.

Joseph@XoticPC
04-03-2010, 12:59 AM
You all are correct. The manufacture should start shipping them to us sometime mid to late next week. We have been processing the people who preordered over the last few days. This should be a really hot item. As soon as we get our models Iwill be benching and doing a video review of it for everyone. I am looking forward to what will probably be the best value in gaming laptops for the money today. 1680 x 1050 and the HD5850 DDR5..only an i5 cpu, but I still think it should hang in there pretty well.

wroy12
04-04-2010, 12:35 AM
Would you mind to show i5 430M & 520M benchmark in your review ? I think most people will concert this result to config their own notebook.
Thanks !

powerpack
04-04-2010, 12:45 AM
Would you mind to show i5 430M & 520M benchmark in your review ? I think most people will concert this result to config their own notebook.
Thanks !This is the CPU link (http://cpubenchmark.net/) I use like others use NBC for GPU's. It is what it is and does give a relative performance comparison.

Solannis
04-04-2010, 12:37 PM
I could not find the i7-620M on that list anywhere. I am guessing it is still a bit too new to show up yet perhaps? That is the proc I ordered for my GX640. The graphics charts also do not show the Mobility 5850 yet either. Oh well. I am sure that my build will be more than sufficiently smoking for Diablo 3 and TOR.

powerpack
04-04-2010, 12:48 PM
I could not find the i7-620M on that list anywhere. I am guessing it is still a bit too new to show up yet perhaps? That is the proc I ordered for my GX640. The graphics charts also do not show the Mobility 5850 yet either. Oh well. I am sure that my build will be more than sufficiently smoking for Diablo 3 and TOR.It is on there, score 2,575. The 5850 is #26 on the list (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html). Score 3DMark06 10,287.

Just not your day for searching dude?:p:D:)

Solannis
04-04-2010, 02:11 PM
I responded but held up for moderation. The CPU is on that chart it scored 2,575 the GPU is #26 on NBC 10,287 3DMark06.Thank you, I did find the CPU. I guess I did not look low enough on the list before. I can see that it beats my P9600 from my current laptop, so I am good with that. #26 on the GPU list is the M5870, not the M5850, but I am sure the performance there will be similar. Lesser, but similar all the same, and still better than the 9600M that I have now.

Essentially, my Force 1651 already handles all the games (and non-game tasks) I need more than sufficiently, so this new model should be just shy of absolutely amazing in comparison. Sooooooo looking forward to it.

powerpack
04-04-2010, 02:30 PM
5870 is #6 #26 is 5850 check again. Yes going from 9600m GT to HD5850m is a major jump about 100% increase.

Solannis
04-04-2010, 10:05 PM
Hmm, PP. You and I must be looking at two different things (which would make sense). #6 on the list I am looking at is the ASUS EAH4890 with a score of 1,918, and #26 is the Mobility Radeon 5870 with a score of 1,247. I clicked on your link in post #10, then clicked on Video Card Benchmarks, then clicked on High End Video Card Chart. So which charts are you looking at, so I can see the same data?

Fr0st
04-04-2010, 10:44 PM
Hmm, PP. You and I must be looking at two different things (which would make sense). #6 on the list I am looking at is the ASUS EAH4890 with a score of 1,918, and #26 is the Mobility Radeon 5870 with a score of 1,247. I clicked on your link in post #10, then clicked on Video Card Benchmarks, then clicked on High End Video Card Chart. So which charts are you looking at, so I can see the same data?

Just click the link, and in the window that opens the 5870 is #6. Don't click anything else :P

min2209
04-05-2010, 03:57 PM
It is on there, score 2,575. The 5850 is #26 on the list (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html). Score 3DMark06 10,287.

Just not your day for searching dude?:p:D:)

Uh, no. There are two benchmarks that contributed to that 10,287 score:

the 8500 score was from a review the 18.4" Acer with HD 5850 GDDR3 memory.
the 12027 score was from the GX640 in a Thai review.

Both of these exact numbers showed up (exactly) in separate reviews. This is why that notebookcheck website is so unreliable.

Solannis
04-05-2010, 09:27 PM
Now I understand, PP. I was looking at http://cpubenchmark.net/ for both CPU and GPU, and you were looking at another list entirely. I had a feeling that was the case.

Now I am faced with another dilemma. A new processor option just showed up in my laptop selection. Now I can also get the i7-720QM, which is $20 cheaper than the i7-620M that I had selected previously. Other than raw benchmark superiority, is there any reason I should switch from my 620M (which, yes, I realize is only dual core) to the 720QM?

Solannis
04-06-2010, 06:14 PM
Just click the link, and in the window that opens the 5870 is #6. Don't click anything else :PYep, I see it now. I was still clicking on the link from PP's post back on the bottom of the first page (Post #10) and going to that graphic chart. I didn't even realize he had made a new link in that other post. Sorry about that. My bad.

And now I have noticed that the MSI GX640 has added a new CPU option. I can now order the laptop with an i7-720QM as a new choice. It is $20 less than the i7-620M that I already ordered. So I will put the question to the community: Other than the obvious 4 cores versus 2 cores difference, and knowing that the 720QM scores better in benchmarks over the 620M(which, if all I did with my laptop was run benchmarks, would make the choice easy) , is there any additional reasons I should consider going with the quad core chip over the dual core chip I already have selected? The order hasn't shipped yet, so I imagine I still have the opportunity to change my mind.

Factors to consider: I will not be doing any heavy video or imaging work with it (I have an i7-920 desktop for that). I will be using it to play WoW, ST:O, ToR, StarCraft 2 (beta'ing it now), Diablo 3, etc. I am not an FPS person, so highest possible frame rate for maximum fragging is not a factor to me. I will be running C, C#, and Java compilers to compile code I write, however.

So what say you all?

Tree_Burner
04-07-2010, 02:18 AM
i advise you to beware of heat. putting a 720 in that chassis (with the gpu and cpu using the same heatsink) you may accidentally overheat and destroy your gpu.

Solannis
04-08-2010, 08:37 PM
For what it is worth, I have been moved to Phase 2 for my GX640 order. If I understand the web site, this means that my laptop has three to seven days for configuration and testing, then it will be shipped to me (since I did not order any custom skinning). I am very excited!

powerpack
04-08-2010, 08:52 PM
Congrats write up when you get.

Virtuoso57
04-12-2010, 02:30 PM
For what it is worth, I have been moved to Phase 2 for my GX640 order. If I understand the web site, this means that my laptop has three to seven days for configuration and testing, then it will be shipped to me (since I did not order any custom skinning). I am very excited!

Could you post some 3DMark06, Vantage scores and Temps?

Solannis
04-12-2010, 07:52 PM
You can find some of that here:
http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?t=5952

Virtuoso57
04-12-2010, 09:36 PM
You can find some of that here:
http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?t=5952

I saw those before, they are just too small to read anything though :(

Solannis
04-13-2010, 05:52 PM
Here are few notes to anyone else who pre-ordered the MSI GX640 prior to 12-Apr-2010. A number of small yet noteworthy things have changed in both the description of the laptop as well as options for purchase. You should be aware of these changes and alter your order as necessary.

1) The laptop will not ship with the MSI backpack. Apparently, MSI decided not to offer this backpack as part of the purchase. If you want a backpack or other carrying case, you will need to add that to your order.

2) The thermal compound coming with the GX640 is currently a "stock" thermal compound (the original details made mention of Arctic Silver). If you wish to have a better compound applied (Arctic Silver or IC Diamond), you need to make sure you let Xotic know.

3) Originally the laptop was shown to come with the Intel Ultimate-N Wi-Fi card (which was, implicitly, the 6300 series card). Today, that is an additional-cost option. The stock card that comes with the laptop is the Intel Wi-Fi Link 5100 a/b/g/n card. While the differences between the cards are minor (and, in a laptop, may make even less difference), it is important that you be aware of the change. If you are counting on and/or require the 6300, be sure to let Xotic know.

4) There is now an additional option for a 6x Blu-ray RW drive that was not there before.

5) There is an additional processor option that appeared last week that was not part of the original pre-order selections. The Intel i7-720QM is now available. It is also possible that the i7-820QM may also be added in the near future.

The moral to this story is: when pre-ordering a new laptop, don't get too committed to what you saw or what you paid for, as changes from the manufacturer (which are not within Xotic's ability to control) may push the laptop cost a bit higher than you anticipated.

Fr0st
04-13-2010, 06:30 PM
+REP for you Solannis! I am not buying a GX640, but that was a very helpful and informative post. I'm sure I speak for many in saying thank you.

Solannis
04-28-2010, 10:57 AM
I was just informed by email yesterday that my laptop has shipped. I am expecting to receive it on Monday. After a week of observation, benchmarking, and performance testing, I will post my results. I am really looking forward to getting this laptop!:yes: