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BloodLust22
04-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Ok, I asked about 3DMark scores in comparison to both these cards running in SLI earlier and several said to not use that as a benchmark. I installed Frycry 2 and Crysis benchmarking tools and did a equal test run in comparison with settings.

The 8800's where running just a few fps's behind the 280's in most cases, however in some the 280's actually got beat by the 8800's. I'm still trying to figure out if there's something wrong with my graphics cards. Using notebookcheck.com as a card review these cards should not be running neck and neck. I'm still very confused with the results. If there's next to no performance gain with the Sager compared to my 2 year old Dell I'm going to send this this back and get my $2500 back. I was expecting a whole hell of alot more. Any suggestions? Does it sound like the cards are working properly?

Again, the test setup was identical. Only difference is the 8800 system is older and slower. :mad:

Maverick494
04-08-2010, 10:36 PM
Ok, I asked about 3DMark scores in comparison to both these cards running in SLI earlier and several said to not use that as a benchmark. I installed Frycry 2 and Crysis benchmarking tools and did a equal test run in comparison with settings.

The 8800's where running just a few fps's behind the 280's in most cases, however in some the 280's actually got beat by the 8800's. I'm still trying to figure out if there's something wrong with my graphics cards. Using notebookcheck.com as a card review these cards should not be running neck and neck. I'm still very confused with the results. If there's next to no performance gain with the Sager compared to my 2 year old Dell I'm going to send this this back and get my $2500 back. I was expecting a whole hell of alot more. Any suggestions? Does it sound like the cards are working properly?

Again, the test setup was identical. Only difference is the 8800 system is older and slower. :mad:

It still seems as if you are only getting one 280M running.

looking a little more in depth to these two cards, there really isn't a huge difference between the two. If you look at notebook check you can see that that GTX280M and the 8800M GTX in SLI scored almost identical on crysis. (GTX280M : ~53 FPS, 8800M GTX: ~46 FPS)

so really when you get right down to it there isn't a huge gain from the 8800M GTX to the GTX280M (about 12%) in crysis. Now looking at Doom 3 there is a huge jump. Look at the specs, outside of more memory that is a little faster the two cards are pretty close to the same.

Nvidia has been doing less improvements in the laptop market in the last few years and it is really starting to show.

powerpack
04-08-2010, 10:57 PM
Agreed I thought it was decided SLI not on because your score is too close to single 280m? On the criticism of 3DMark it is valid in some ways but for you and your issues it is fine as a comparison. Run GPU-Z is your GPU's SLI.

Not really very important but how do you figure identical test beds? Like I said not the problem but I do not see it I mean different CPU's for starters.

BloodLust22
04-09-2010, 07:10 AM
I did iinstall GPU-z and it does say 2 GPU's SLI enabled. However, the last driver I installed the otherday after the SLI enabling reboot I got a little bubble pop up on the bottom right icon tray that said, "SLI connector not detected. In order to use SLI please use a SLI connector on your GPU's". I'm not sure what that means, I thought the SLI was intergrated into a laptops M/B since there's not really any room for cables like in a desktop. Could this be the problem? Should I take the system apart and look for a SLI Connector not being connected, I'm really not sure what to look for hardware wise. Oh, and the Nivida Control Panel does still show SLI enabled even after the message.


As far the test bed settings. I'll use my Farcry 2 scores. Testing was done on the small ranch map. Using: 1920x1080 DX10 AA:0 Very High settings on everything for both systems.

8800's: max: 59.74 min: 29.87 avg. 40.12

280's max: 61.88 min: 31.46 avg. 42.21

rastamandom
04-09-2010, 10:52 AM
I did iinstall GPU-z and it does say 2 GPU's SLI enabled. However, the last driver I installed the otherday after the SLI enabling reboot I got a little bubble pop up on the bottom right icon tray that said, "SLI connector not detected. In order to use SLI please use a SLI connector on your GPU's". I'm not sure what that means, I thought the SLI was intergrated into a laptops M/B since there's not really any room for cables like in a desktop. Could this be the problem? Should I take the system apart and look for a SLI Connector not being connected, I'm really not sure what to look for hardware wise. Oh, and the Nivida Control Panel does still show SLI enabled even after the message.


As far the test bed settings. I'll use my Farcry 2 scores. Testing was done on the small ranch map. Using: 1920x1080 DX10 AA:0 Very High settings on everything for both systems.

8800's: max: 59.74 min: 29.87 avg. 40.12

280's max: 61.88 min: 31.46 avg. 42.21

i think that everything is ok...Actually the clocks are only 17-19% percent higher. Not a big improvement for a next generation card, just my opinion. and you need to now some GPU cards in laptops are downclock because of heat some more some less

rastamandom
04-09-2010, 11:44 AM
i recommend you to use 3dmark Vantage you should get more or les 8300 with your CPU and gtx 280m in SLI mode

BloodLust22
04-09-2010, 12:48 PM
Used the trial version of 3DMark Vantage. Ran the test it gave me a total score of this: P7934 CPU Score: 2394 GPU Score: 9756

This good?

Maverick494
04-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Used the trial version of 3DMark Vantage. Ran the test it gave me a total score of this: P7934 CPU Score: 2394 GPU Score: 9756

This good?

The GPU score seems about right. I mean my single ATi 5870 scores ~9150 GPU marks so you really don't seem that far off. The CPU score seems low, but maybe i am expecting too much out of your CPU because my CPU scores ~10500 or so.

rastamandom
04-09-2010, 01:25 PM
Used the trial version of 3DMark Vantage. Ran the test it gave me a total score of this: P7934 CPU Score: 2394 GPU Score: 9756

This good?

GPU look OK to me... you can chek you CPU on link (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html) (but here they have only 3dMark 06 score)

BloodLust22
04-09-2010, 04:10 PM
Another question. Does anyone know where the ram is located on the M980NU? I've taken off all three back covers and don't see it.