Sandy Bridge upgrade price difference

[thaidiver]

Hi all,

I was just wondering why it costs 399$ to upgrade the Asus G73SW from i7-2630QM to i7-2720QM, but only 160$ to do the same to the Sager NP8170.

Cheers

[Cetan]

I've been curious on this as well. It's gotta be something related to ASUS/Sager, since several other pick-your-part laptop sites other than Xotic price the upgrades the same/similar.

[powerpack]

Sager is set up in their price point/upgrade model to be more cost friendly than Asus. I understand your confusion. But it simply is how it is. I agree it makes little sense from an over view. That said Asus does deliver pre config models at great price.

[Maverick494]

Sager is set up in their price point/upgrade model to be more cost friendly than Asus. I understand your confusion. But it simply is how it is. I agree it makes little sense from an over view. That said Asus does deliver pre config models at great price.

Plus the rather long process of taking the Asus apart completely to install the new CPU. (can't imagine it changed much or really at all with SB)

[thaidiver]

Someone suggested that it wasn't worth the 160$ to upgrade from the i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz to the i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz, though I can't seem to find the post atm. Is this accurate? For playing WoW (a cpu intensive game), I would think the .6GHz extra turbo boost would be a significant increase (21% boost). Am I thinking wrong?

[Maverick494]

Someone suggested that it wasn't worth the 160$ to upgrade from the i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz to the i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz, though I can't seem to find the post atm. Is this accurate? For playing WoW (a cpu intensive game), I would think the .6GHz extra turbo boost would be a significant increase (21% boost). Am I thinking wrong?

can you afford the upgrade now? do you want to disassemble the entire machine to do it later?

If you answer yes and no, then upgrade. If you answer no and no then save up some more so you can answer yes and no. If you answer no and yes, then don't upgrade.

21% in computing terms is huge. 21% of 30 FPS is 6.3 is playing at 24 - 25 FPS as good as playing at 30? no. Is taking 5 min to rip a dvd as good as taking 3? no.

So its all about your pocket book now vs. later and if the speed increase is worth it to you.

[SmogHog]

Someone suggested that it wasn't worth the 160$ to upgrade from the i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz to the i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz, though I can't seem to find the post atm. Is this accurate? For playing WoW (a cpu intensive game), I would think the .6GHz extra turbo boost would be a significant increase (21% boost). Am I thinking wrong?

I think it's a great price for the upgrade.

How much improvement runnining your software????

Judgements on worth are sometimes made according to the posters financial status.

I perfer to change my notebooks more often than to buy a super powerful one and keep it longer even though I can afford to get most of the upgrades.

[powerpack]

Recommended CPU (from Blizzard) Dual Core Pentium D. The 2630 might be 500% above that? Do you think 600% is any kind of critical difference? I don't. Ferrari's are say faster than Corvettes? Does it matter on the highway? WoW is not what is going to push these. WoW is not going to push my 720QM.

Also why are you looking at the "Turbo Boost" Max? Since Wow asks for Dual Core it is not single threaded as such it should not be running at that top boost?

You do not need the 2820QM, if someone says you do for WoW (or really anything) I have to strongly disagree. Now if you want it that is a different question. On that I say sure go for it. My car does 150mph and I like it, do I need it? No, but I like.

The 2630QM is about 58% increase over my 720QM in PassMark CPU bench.

Edit: CPU % increase will not correlate to fps. I see my two friends type much faster than I. I did not see their posts.

[Maverick494]

Edit: CPU % increase will not correlate to fps. I see my two friends type much faster than I. I did not see their posts.

I didn't say that CPU speed directly correlates to FPS. I was just using numbers people are familiar with to illustrate the point. Though in almost every game to date CPU speed does actually end up correlating to increased FPS, which is why in some cases an i5 is better than an i7 for gaming.

[SmogHog]

I didn't say that CPU speed directly correlates to FPS. I was just using numbers people are familiar with to illustrate the point. Though in almost every game to date CPU speed does actually end up correlating to increased FPS, which is why in some cases an i5 is better than an i7 for gaming.

Yes!

With the last round of gaming notebooks before Sandy Bridge I wondered why more models didn't have duel core i7 640M CPUs in them.

Sandy Bridge has the Quads released first and duels later.

[powerpack]

I know Mav, I just wanted to clarify for the guy. I don't really know Wow I was taken back when he said WoW is CPU intensive. Like I said I don't know the game but that sounded off to me? At least in my terms of CPU intensive.

Mav do you feel your 720QM is lacking in performance? I am not feeling that. As such I am having trouble recommending SB CPU upgrade being needed above the base. Of course faster is always better but needed? Any thoughts on that from you.

I do like the new CPU's and might get sooner rather than later.

[Maverick494]

I know Mav, I just wanted to clarify for the guy. I don't really know Wow I was taken back when he said WoW is CPU intensive. Like I said I don't know the game but that sounded off to me? At least in my terms of CPU intensive.

Mav do you feel your 720QM is lacking in performance? I am not feeling that. As such I am having trouble recommending SB CPU upgrade being needed above the base. Of course faster is always better but needed? Any thoughts on that from you.

I do like the new CPU's and might get sooner rather than later.

In WoW, no. Looking at future needs? a 50+% increase in CPU output is huge. I think that if I had the ability to wait last may until now I would have. The sandy bridge platform is one of the best I have seen from intel in recent years. I just know that no matter what spend the money now if you have it to spend now because in a year you may not have the money to spend (see me trying to sell this G73 so I can move back to a 15" laptop and having to be more frugal than last time).

[Angel]

My decade old pc can run wow (granted it is on low settings) but I have friends with systems not that much better then mine that can run it fairly well. wow is not a demanding beast of a game.

I love your analogy of the fastest car not making a bit of difference on the highway by the way, that was perfect powerpack.

[scottwmp]

Hey everyone!

Would the SB processor also translate into overall less power usage and more battery life, or will it be negligible?

I do some gaming, but also do some video and audio editing so I am thinking the little extra in the SB would be worth the price?

Thoughts?

[powerpack]

By itself not enough to matter, with optimus I would say yes.

In video editing while might not increase battery life it might increase production in the same time. But that is a CPU to CPU comparison.

[Keeper]

I did not say that processor speed is directly correlated with the FPS. I was using the familiar numbers to illustrate this point. While nearly all games at the date of full processor speed will end up in correlation with higher FPS, which explains why in some cases is better than a i7 i5 for the game.

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[Maverick494]

Are you a bot? I do not like your signature if you're not, and if you are, you guys are really getting better.

that is a copy and paste from my post, so yes he is a bot.

[Keeper]

that is a copy and paste from my post, so yes he is a bot.

Ah I didn't see that.

[powerpack]

Ha ha! I was reading and at first thinking Mav has a freind and pp a hater? But glad just a stupid bot.