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some_random_guy
01-24-2011, 09:38 AM
My Sager NP8130 arrived in the standard shipping time I was quoted and everything was packed sufficiently and arrived safe and sound. XoticPC was very helpful and proactive each step of the way.
It should be noted that there is an issue connecting to Bluetooth mice that have internal transmitters (the ones that don't need "dongles".) I have not been able to pair either of my bluetooth mice with the laptop yet but I expect this issue will be resolved in a driver update soon. On to the review:

Spec Highlights:
- 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) Matte Display
- Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- nVIDIA 460M 1.5 GHZ GDDR 5, DX 11
- 8GB DDR 3 Memory
- 6X Blu-ray/8X DVDRW combo drive (optional)
- USB 3.0 and 2.0
- Built-in Wireless
- Built-in Bluetooth
- Built-in 2.0 mp Webcam
- Built-in Media card reader
- Fingerprint reader
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Aesthetics:
The Clevo P151HM1 case is almost perfect. The areas near the front left and front right are both free from ports (that lead to cables obstructing your mouse). The ports for the the things you don't need quick access to (AC power, DVI, HDMI, eSATA) are all in back. Finally a manufacturer who gets it! It is all beautiful black and doesn't have a bunch of flashy lights and neon colors so you can take it to work or class and no one would ever suspect you are using a gaming beast.

The island style keyboard feels solid and is pleasant to type on. The addition of a numeric keypad is great as many 15" notebooks forgo this feature. The Case feels sturdy and is not made of that high gloss smooth plastic (which shows smudged and feels slippery.)

Portability:
Unlike many other gaming laptops, this one fits easily into a standard size laptop bag. The weight is easily tolerable, although if you will be carrying it for a long time you might want to invest in a laptop backpack.

Gaming:
The first thing I did after setting up my new Sager NP8130 was to install Crysis (to this day still one of the most demanding games,) set all the game graphics settings to their highest aling with 2x ani-aliasing and vsync. The game was quite playable, though Fraps showed an average FPS of around 12. After lowering the settings to "High" Fraps showed FPS scores in the 50s. Needless to say this laptop will be future proof well beyond when I am ready to buy another one.

Heat:
Although I did not measure the temperature, I never felt like I needed to since the case (and even the gpu exhaust) never got very hot even under load. The cooling system seems very efficient.

Noise:
The cooling fans are fairly quiet, in my opinion, even under load. When playing games I could not even hear the fans at all with the game volume at a reasonable level.

Processing:
It's a Sandy Bridge i7 quad core...nothing I do will even begin to tax it so I didn't bother to benchmark it. That's what notebookcheck.net (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html) is for.

Display:
I was mildly concerned that the Matte (anti glare) type display would not be as sharp as I wanted. I am pretty discriminating about visual quality and the display looks beautiful to me.

Sound:
The speakers include a subwoofer and are better than average. Do not expect booming base and deafening volumes from any laptop speakers. The volume and sound were still better than you would find on any mainstream laptop, although still a bit more "tinny" than I was hoping.

Battery:
Not fully tested. It's a non-Optimus gaming laptop, the battery functions more as a UPS. Even so, with the right
power configuration you might be able to watch a 90 minute Blu-ray.

Conclusion:
If you are looking for a portable desktop replacement that is actually portable and can actually replace your gaming desktop then the best bang for your buck is the NP8130. Hope this has helped with your purchase decisions.

JP@XoticPC
01-24-2011, 02:13 PM
Thanks for the helpful review, random guy! :D

If you'd like to leave a positive review about us on Reseller Ratings (http://www.resellerratings.com/) as well, it would be greatly appreciated! Also, we offer discounts to return customers, so come back to us in the future if you have any other laptop needs!

Again, thanks for the review and your business.

some_random_guy
01-25-2011, 07:22 AM
Thanks for the helpful review, random guy! :D

If you'd like to leave a positive review about us on Reseller Ratings (http://www.resellerratings.com/) as well, it would be greatly appreciated! Also, we offer discounts to return customers, so come back to us in the future if you have any other laptop needs!

Again, thanks for the review and your business.

If your prices and service continue to be better than the competition then I will be a lifetime customer! Brett was very helpful and I feel I got a great laptop at a good price. Thanks again XoticPC

some_random_guy
01-25-2011, 07:33 AM
Thanks for the helpful review, random guy! :D

If you'd like to leave a positive review about us on Reseller Ratings (http://www.resellerratings.com/) as well, it would be greatly appreciated! Also, we offer discounts to return customers, so come back to us in the future if you have any other laptop needs!

Again, thanks for the review and your business.

I edited the specs to be more specific to my order and now my review isn't showing anymore. Guess it went to the approval queue again or something.

some_random_guy
01-27-2011, 06:41 AM
When I edited my review the post disappeared. Maybe it is awaiting approval again?

powerpack
01-27-2011, 08:04 AM
JP with the preemptive congrats?

JP@XoticPC
01-27-2011, 08:58 AM
JP with the preemptive congrats?

:eeek2: Must be.

random guy, are you talking about a post here or on reseller ratings?

powerpack
01-27-2011, 11:42 AM
The congrats on fixing the thread. Something is missing I am sure you will fix it.;):)

JP@XoticPC
01-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Right, right, I forgot about moderated posts and that they need approval. I'm still new to this whole moderation thing...

SmogHog
01-27-2011, 08:48 PM
I was really interested in news about the quality of the matte screen.

THX for the review of your purchase.

LordMisfit
01-27-2011, 09:18 PM
Well, I feel even better now that I've looked over this. I switched my order from an Asus G53JW-A3 [which was taking way too long because Asus is all "derp" with 2nd HDD brackets], since I stumbled upon the NP8130 and noticed it was selling 90-95% of the special upgrades for less overall than the G53JW-A3 was [even saved a few dollars and got a better Blu-Ray reader and of course there's the new processors too]. The only real downside is lack of a second normal HDD slot, but I improvised and went to 750GB instead of 2x 500GBs.

some_random_guy
02-05-2011, 08:48 AM
Well, I feel even better now that I've looked over this. I switched my order from an Asus G53JW-A3 [which was taking way too long because Asus is all "derp" with 2nd HDD brackets], since I stumbled upon the NP8130 and noticed it was selling 90-95% of the special upgrades for less overall than the G53JW-A3 was [even saved a few dollars and got a better Blu-Ray reader and of course there's the new processors too]. The only real downside is lack of a second normal HDD slot, but I improvised and went to 750GB instead of 2x 500GBs.

If you have BlueTooth problems simply install the drivers from the setup disk. Windows will install the wrong drivers. After troublshooting this for 2 hours I asked XoticPC and they quickly gave me the answer.

About the 2nd HDD...I was thinking exactly the same thing but I bought a 2TB external eSATA drive and I like the setup better overall I think.

LordMisfit
02-05-2011, 12:31 PM
Do note I haven't actually received the laptop yet. It's still on backorder, possibly delayed due to this recall stuff going on... >.>; *sigh*

Donkote
02-06-2011, 05:09 PM
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid (Serial-ATA II 300 - 32MB Cache)
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase


Ordered mine yesterday :D, hopefully I can last the 2+ months of waiting without going crazy

windsong7
02-17-2011, 12:02 AM
some random guy--are you experiencing any random freezes with your 8130?

Thanks.

Anomander
02-17-2011, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the review. I think I am going to pull the trigger on this laptop. Now the hard part will be waiting to get it.

some_random_guy
02-22-2011, 05:50 PM
some random guy--are you experiencing any random freezes with your 8130?

Thanks.
windsong: yes I had the freezing issues from time to time. Win 7 Service Pack 1 is available at Windows Update now and it seems to have fixed the freezing problem for me and others.

some_random_guy
02-23-2011, 06:10 AM
Update on freezing issues:

I Let it run all night last night. In the morning it was frozen. Oh well, at least it seems to play DVDs better now. Apparently, since production the 6 series chipsets was halted, there will be a recall of laptops with this chipset probably around may/june.

Sorry guys. When I wrote this review it hadnt frozen yet. I originally thought I could tweak the power options to eliminate this problem (which was very infrequent.) Had I known there was a chipset quality issue I would never have recommended anyone buy this laptop.

Anomander
02-23-2011, 06:16 AM
Update on freezing issues:

I Let it run all night last night. In the morning it was frozen. Oh well, at least it seems to play DVDs better now. Apparently, since production the 6 series chipsets was halted, there will be a recall of laptops with this chipset probably around may/june.

Sorry guys. When I wrote this review it hadnt frozen yet. I originally thought I could tweak the power options to eliminate this problem (which was very infrequent.) Had I known it was a chipset quality issue I would never have recommended anyone buy this laptop.
Even with the freezing issue which is now known with Intel's recall. I still ordered the laptop. With having to wait until they start shipping out the new boards I feel good about the decision. I liked the specs of the system I built for the price.

prophetaxxi
02-25-2011, 11:42 AM
So out of curiosity I went to Dell's website and configured a M15X as close as possible to my NP8130 pre-ordered system.Check out bin price and comparison between these two systems.

M15X final cost: $2374
NP8130 final cost:$1200 (with cash discount)


M15x specs:

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7 740QM Quad Core Processor, 1.73GHz (2.93GHz Turbo Mode, 6M Cache edit
MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel Memory (2x 4GB DDR3) edit
VIDEO CARD 1.5GB GDDR5 65W NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460M edit
HARD DRIVE 500GB SATAII 7,200RPM edit
LCD PANEL 15.6-inch WideFHD 1920x1080 (1080p) WLED edit

NP8130 Specs:

Primary Hard Drive ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Ram ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
Processor - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
Display 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
NO OS (since I have a retail copy rd to be installed)

The numbers tell everything! Unbelievable!

Anomander
02-25-2011, 06:59 PM
Thanks Prophet for doing that. I was curious what the Alienware equivalent was going to be in price. I am glad I found this website out and being able to check out out the customization that we can do with the laptops. I kept looking on newegg at laptops and just could not find the build I wanted there. Bestbuy was a no go either since they didn't have what I wanted either since they really do not carry high end laptops.

I do wish my budget was bigger since I would have liked to have gone with a nVidia 485, but honestly I do not think I will be gaming as much as I would like to. If the 460 can run Sky Rim in High details I will be happy. Heck I imagine medium details will still look impressive.

prophetaxxi
02-28-2011, 08:27 AM
Thanks Prophet for doing that. I was curious what the Alienware equivalent was going to be in price. I am glad I found this website out and being able to check out out the customization that we can do with the laptops. I kept looking on newegg at laptops and just could not find the build I wanted there. Bestbuy was a no go either since they didn't have what I wanted either since they really do not carry high end laptops.

I do wish my budget was bigger since I would have liked to have gone with a nVidia 485, but honestly I do not think I will be gaming as much as I would like to. If the 460 can run Sky Rim in High details I will be happy. Heck I imagine medium details will still look impressive.

Right on Anomander! We're in the same page then. :yes: